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ibiza_cat
When you get to the stage where your beatmatching is supertight the temptation of making a really long mix is tempting especially with the tracklength of progressive tunes but will it be too clashy or what, keeping in mind that i am practicing harmonic mixing?

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OMNIFEX
The only downfall I found with long mixing, is having the
songs run out before you can cue up the next song.

Of course, if your using 3 decks, this is not a problem.
But, if your using two.........
Cosmic Realm
i think mixing for minutes is great it keeps things from getting boring, but as OMNIFEF said, its a little easyer with 3 or even 4 tables, but i think it would also make you unique so keep at it and i would love to hear a Demo or something...
but practice with it to learn good cue points in the tracks to keep from that clashing, and i would think with progressive, each track would only play by itsself for about 2 minutes or so, before something else is blened in...

but i think it boils down to as long as you feel it sounds good and youv got the equipment to pull it off then go for what ever you dream up
dj_lane
well long mixing doesnt really work with progressive, you need to cut the mix when the melody starts or else it sounds weird when 2 melodys and sounds are going...

Now with techno, it is a whole other ballgame.
Omega_Blue
if you just figure out when the outgoing track ends and the incoming track's melody or bassline begins, then you should be able to cue without them sounding like they clash together. either that, even though it may sound abrupt- but when you know the incoming melody is about to start... just cut the bass out of the outgoing track or cut it out completely. it sounds.. unprofessional, but it's better than playing out two melodies at the same time.
DJ RANN
Long mixes are a matter of knowing your tracks and finding ones that compimant each other (i.e as one begins simplify during the outro the other starts to build layers). These mixes are great for getting a crowd locked in to your set as the mix will fluidly progress from one choon to another. Too many long mixes in a set and you will lack variety and punch. I don't really understand how long mixes don't work with progressive - I find progressive much easier for long mixes as the the way they build and breakdown is very structured and often quite prdictable. It's all subjective though..............:D
CosmoKid
I think everyone is missing a valuable point here....Every mix should be different depending on the 2 tracks. There is no blanket way to mix.

Some tunes sound great when you hold them for a minute and a half. Some sound great with a quick 30 second mix.

Every transistion should be different, and will be if you are doing it right.
DJ Lucas
with melodic progressive, either the melodies have to be in the same key and sound okay, or you need to have the treble and mids way down while the other melody is in......and yeah, cue points are key...but you can usually start the record when the other record breaks....and with prog, you usually have plenty of time for the blend effect after the outgoing track breaks towards the end.

i did some long blends with my deep progressive mix "touch the stars" available on my website www.lucassmith.net.....most tracks i'd mix into the breakdown in the middle, and then start the outgoing track at the end of the breakdown....of course i'd wait a few bars to bring the next track in....because i was beatmatching...;) the first few transitions are examples of melodic blend transitions that i'm pretty happy with.

of course if you're mixing, and the melodies clash, it's time to do some major eqing on the outgoing track and then perhaps cut it at the next phase change
dj portion
Dude if you are playing in key progressive mixes will go for as long as you want them to and sound good i dont care what any of these other ppl say if you are playing in key it will be fine just have you eq's in the right place for each track
d-kristopherre
mix length is totally a situational thing. depending on the time in your set... how long? and what part?

it also depends on the feeling you wish to convey. sometimes you may want to jump from hook to hook, other times you may wish to relax.
also the music may dictate from time to time. ie. are there too many sounds that will make your mix sound jumbled and confusing? or too few that will make it sound boring and lose the interest of your audience.

now the jumbled part could be avoided if you have a mixer of exceptional quality that lets you truly cut all of a particular freq.

i find its nice to ask others for advice, but look at yourself, listen to your music and see what feels right for you. be true to your obsession, and though it may take some time, you will develop an honest, devoted following. and shall not fade as music trends often do
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