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Tupac Appreciation Thread (pg. 2)
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| eRRaTiK |
| i could never get into biggie's music, but yeh i'd be interested in his story too. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
2pac was indeed a visionary and a man ahead of his times. i wish other rappers would take a leaf out of his book and get shot to death too.
my guns bigger
gonna kill my ******
watch me pull the trigger
*yawn*
ohhhh, such a contribution to the musical arts hiphop is :p |
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| DaveBegic |
| ^^ dont forget the "uhh ohhh yeah" "come on!" |
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| **Xenon** |
Yeah big, big Pac fan back in my younger days in high school.
Still I Rise, Unconditional Love, How many shots will it take, Grab the Mic, heaps more, my fave songs.
Have all his unreleased songs archived on some cd somehwere too.:thepirate |
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| jizza |
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
i could never get into biggie's music, but yeh i'd be interested in his story too. |
it's widely regarded biggie was the better rapper - in fact, the best of all time but of course, thats arguable. tupac was one angry mother******, i doubt he ever expected to live much longer than he did. |
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| eRRaTiK |
| quote: | Originally posted by jizza
it's widely regarded biggie was the better rapper - in fact, the best of all time but of course, thats arguable. |
biggie's voice doesn't do it for me, and none of the stuff i've heard from him was that impressive. I'll have to listen to his stuff again sometime.
Considering 2pac's life it's no wonder he was angry, but it wasn't all about anger. it was about injustices that he saw as a black man growing up in America.
He was beaten up and abused by a white police officer for "resisting arrest" after he was approached whilst crossing the street and asked for ID (for no real reason other than the colour of his skin). Apparently he had j-walked. So they beat him up, bashed his head against the pavement. He sued and won (out of court but still a win).
The thing about 2pac, before the whole Death Row thing, was his lyrics were deep and he told it like it was. A lot of politicians were against him because of that.
Interesting fact - he studied Shakespeare, poetry, ballet, acting and writing at a performing arts school. However due to the environment he was in (the ghettos) he fell into drugs, hung with pushers, and none of what he learnt he could discuss with the people he was around. However he had an analytical mind and he started to see that poverty was a problem for black people and no matter where he went it was a recurring theme.
Anyways, very talented writer (if you get past the later albums and involvement with Death Row Records, where some argue he sold out).
Some tracks worth listening to (and exploring the lyrics of)
"Dear Mama" - written for his mother, a Black Panther, who supported him. Also for all mothers.
" Life Goes On" - touching song, where he searches more for the meaning of life. He gives it up for his fallen mates and speaks of how he wants to go.
"Pour out a little liquor" - another one for the fallen
"Pain"
"Keep Your Heads Up" - tribute to women and encouraging them to hang their heads high in times that are low.
"Changes" - explores racism |
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| Axolotyl |
I dont get the whole life story aspect of rap and rock music. It's like "MC *insert name here*'s music is dark because apparently he shot his dog during a drug induced hallucination and hasnt got over it till this day" or "Maralyn Mansons lastest album was written about his mum because he secretly wants to boink her !?!" Its like every hardcore fan is an expert on their favourite musicians life story based on what they've read in rolling stone magazine.
I think thats what I like about EDM. No one really gives a what sort of upbringing MIKE had or if Airbase is gay. They're here now, they might be gone tommorrow. No one cares that much as long as they keep writing good tracks.
ok sorry... rant finished... |
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| jizza |
i always knew airbase was ghey. his synths are far too fluffy to be hetero.
...but you could also argue that electronic music artists much like the tools they use are synthetic and mechanical and lack that kind of actual identity that is usually attached to one who makes music. it doesnt mean what they produce is less emotional, its just that its sometime nice to put a face/identity behind the music or see why people make the music they do.
/end rant, pass it on. |
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| Axolotyl |
/rant picked up/
So does the faceless nature of EDM makes it less about the music or more about the music? Considering that your average EMD producer pumps out a track a month instead of sitting in a studio shooting smack for 4 years before releasing his "greatest Album EVOR" would say to me that its more about the music.
OT: God I hate Radiohead. Anyone else feel the same way? I mean what a whine... |
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| jizza |
uh oh.
you hate radiohead. thus making your opinion and life VOID.
jayslashkay. not all radiohead is whine. kid a contains the greatest pieces of electronic bliss you'll find this side of the shire. |
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| Axolotyl |
I've tried to listen to it, but every time I get about 5 minutes into any radiohead album I just feel like screaming at the stereo "CHEER THE UP!!" and then people usually have to hold me back from smashing the cd into tiny little pieces.
Is this a normal reaction to radiohead? Am I on the right path? |
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