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CDJ vs. CDX (pg. 3)
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| Zild |
The only time I ever touch a record is when I baby scratch it over the first beat so I can drop it in phrase with the live track and get to beatmatching. Very rarely will I forget to drop my unbeatmatched track in phrase and in that case you'd see recue the record which makes for 2 touches on the record per mix and thats only if I screw up bigtime. You'd be in never ever land if you see me touch the platter once because I never do. You might laugh because you can't imagine mixing like that but I'm the one thats laughing at you. When you DJ you put on a show. Would you rather see someone that only touches the record once to get it cued and does everything else with the pitch or see someone who manhandles the vinyl?
Well I guess I have super turntables! :haha: |
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| Psiweaver |
| So you don't touch the record to cue it up you don't touch it to get it to its cue point you simply are able to drop your needle exactly where you want it everytime. wow i'm impressed. Having briefly used all 3 decks I really like the cdx because it does a great job replicating the vinyl feeling in the end I would probably go with the denon simply for its great build quality and its alpha track function. CDJ's are just boring to use. |
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| Zild |
| I told you I touch it once maybe twice. I don't see whats so hard about dropping your tracks on phrase the first time and riding the pitch until its locked then going straight into mixing the track since its already phrasematched and beatmatched why would you need to touch the record a second time? Makes no sense. If you're touching the record all over the place you're just making more work for yourself. |
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| dex316 |
id have to say go for the denons - i own one and couldnt be happier although i have never used any of the others so cant really compare
personally tho i think the cdx just looks like a cheap gimmick (but having never used one i cant comment on its performance before anyones starts flaming me) - i would certainly never buy one. if u dont scratch i dont see the point when other cd decks have much more accurate pitch for better mixing. even if u do scratch the denon has a rotating platter - why would anyone want one with a big hunk of plastic stuck on?? |
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| Kuffdam |
ITS THE CDJ FOR ME....
Can't be beat |
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| sleepydragon |
people r only slagging of the cdx cose its numark
if numark products had a pioneer or a technics label on them instead people would be rushing out to by there products like there the best thing since sliced bread.
Alot of people only buy certain decks & mixers either cose everyone else has got it or cose all the clubs have them but dont actually buy a product cose they have tried everthing out and think its the best. |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
people r only slagging of the cdx cose its numark
if numark products had a pioneer or a technics label on them instead people would be rushing out to by there products like there the best thing since sliced bread.
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Correct
And with good reason.
The numark new stuff may not be the numark of old- they may have made improvements with reliability etc, but to 99% of professional working djs, they are perceived as nothing more than a toy for the bedroom.
They should have launched the cdx as a totally new name, from a totally new company.
Sad- but ultimately true.
You are correct that if they had a technics or pioneer logo on, they would be viewed differently, and that is generally because those two companies have a proven reliability record and also a record for kit that gets the job done.
oh, and where have you been if you havent seen all the negative feedback about the TECHNICS cd deck- thats gettting a kicking and it doesnt even have a numark logo on :stongue:
Bottom line:
Pioneer got in early, and have made themselves the industry standard for cd players, as techincs have with turntables.
Doesnt mean to say that the cdjs are the better ones, but they are the accepted and used ones.
Anyone remember the VHS/betamax wars?
VHS won the consumer battle- beta only survived in a few pro audio applications- despite beta actually technically being the far superior format.
All to do with marketing and all sorts of other crap. |
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kuffdam
ITS THE CDJ FOR ME....
Can't be beat |
Agreed. CDJ 800 is my love |
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| j@y |
| ive tried the cdx and they feel really really nice but that.1% pitch is really not a good thing |
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| dex316 |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
people r only slagging of the cdx cose its numark
if numark products had a pioneer or a technics label on them instead people would be rushing out to by there products like there the best thing since sliced bread. |
i dont think thats totally true - yes there r a lot of ppl who will say its a cd deck and its not by pioneer so its but theyre just ignorant
i still think tho that if pioneer had made the cdx most ppl would still not like it because of the limited pitch control and the huge platter (plus i doubt pioneer would produce sumthing with .1% pitch steps)
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Bottom line:
Pioneer got in early, and have made themselves the industry standard for cd players, as techincs have with turntables. |
freak is spot on - ppl see pioneer as the best (whether they r or not)
if numark just released a bog-standard copy of the cdj they wouldnt sell because ppl would go for the pioneer so they need a gimmick to set them aside from the cdj's. unfortuantely they chose a rotating lump of plastic which imo looks hideous. |
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| Zild |
| I can't stand the retarded pitch fader that Numark uses. |
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| Axolotyl |
Dennons piss on everything else anyway in terms of loops, samplers, pitch control, sensible design, build quality, software updates and pricing.
The only thing that might beat it is the CDX for vinyl feel, but if you want that feel, use vinyl. If your happy to spend a week or two getting used to the dennon platter, then you can scratch just as well with it as you would a vinyl platter regardless of how it might 'feel'
Dennon rule. I just hope one day they knock Pioneer off the top spot and we start seeing real professional CD players in clubs instead of those boring doorstops...!?!
:tongue3 :tongue3 :tongue3 :tongue3 |
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