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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RobbyG.
What we need is a belevolent dictator:D |
We already have one... whomever leads the liberal party is king and can do no wrong.
The emperor has no clothes but it doesnt matter when the serfs are blind. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
We already know that the Liberals are extremely corrupt |
The Bombardier deal is a great example of this. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The Bombardier deal is a great example of this. |
when the old PC's chose Montreal and Bombardier in the infamous 1986 CF-18 deal, the West responded with Reform, and the PC's were decimated
now that the Lieberals have done almost the same thing to Ontario, how will Ontario respond? Will they be punished at all? How many Torontonians even know what happened in this case??? |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The Bombardier deal is a great example of this. |
and that 1B$ fund for the auto industry is another great example.:rolleyes: |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
and that 1B$ fund for the auto industry is another great example.:rolleyes: |
which the Ontario government pays a big chunk of (half I think)...
...but yeah, the CPC (rightly) wants to eliminate corporate welfare |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
when the old PC's chose Montreal and Bombardier in the infamous 1986 CF-18 deal, the West responded with Reform, and the PC's were decimated
now that the Lieberals have done almost the same thing to Ontario, how will Ontario respond? Will they be punished at all? How many Torontonians even know what happened in this case??? |
the PC chose Bombardier because its ownership was Canadian, the firm based in Winnipeg wasn't.
It makes sense to favor Canadian firms when possible in defense matters.
But hey, hicks in the west don't get it. |
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| malek |
If you think that the CPC would not have done the same thing for Bombardier you're plain wrong or they would be super crazy. (actually they promised to keep Bombardier's deal intact if they're elected).
Every major plane builder in the world have recieved massive public investments for RnD.
Just think about Airbus, Boeing and Embraer.
Why would we let down our only plane builder?
Those jobs created aren't minimum wage either, its high tech, its well paid and its a big plus for the country! |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
the PC chose Bombardier because its ownership was Canadian, the firm based in Winnipeg wasn't. |
nonsense....Mulroney chose Bombarider to get votes in Quebec. The Bombardier bid was HIGHER... yet it still won!
| quote: | | It makes sense to favor Canadian firms when possible in defense matters. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Aerospace
hardly a foreign firm... the other countries involved in the company are also part of NATO, so we share miiltary systems anyway!
| quote: | | But hey, hicks in the west don't get it. |
probably lost in translation.... we don't speak Ribbit 'round here
:gsmile: :gsmile: :gsmile: |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
If you think that the CPC would not have done the same thing for Bombardier you're plain wrong or they would be super crazy. (actually they promised to keep Bombardier's deal intact if they're elected).
Every major plane builder in the world have recieved massive public investments for RnD.
Just think about Airbus, Boeing and Embraer.
Why would we let down our only plane builder?
Those jobs created aren't minimum wage either, its high tech, its well paid and its a big plus for the country! |
I would empathize, except that Bombardier has always HEAVILY supported the Lieberals with donations (in the millions).... and that party is flushing this country down the toilet. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I would empathize, except that Bombardier has always HEAVILY supported the Lieberals with donations (in the millions).... and that party is flushing this country down the toilet. |
nonesense... you're telling me that Bombardier didn't support the CPC after getting those contracts???
did you just shoot yourself in the foot?
we both know that firms support whichever party is in power, no matter who it is.
Bristol is British owned, check wikipedia:rolleyes: |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
we don't speak Ribbit 'round here |
Reminds me of that Swampthing tune from the mid 1990s. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
nonesense... you're telling me that Bombardier didn't support the CPC after getting those contracts???
did you just shoot yourself in the foot? |
I don't deny that they gave money to the old PC Party...but that's my point - the PC Party was wiped out (in part to losing the West)
also, the amount given to the old PC Party pales in comparison to the amount given to the Lieberals
the CPC never received any money from Bombardier
| quote: | | we both know that firms support whichever party is in power, no matter who it is. |
well election financing laws have changed radically since then.. limits on corporate donations, etc.
| quote: | | Bristol is British owned, check wikipedia:rolleyes: |
...this is British North America
anyway, it's no longer British-owned... and even when it was, it seems to have been an independant division
and like I said, all NATO coutries share military systems with each other... ironically, all except France :haha: :haha: |
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