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avoiding the big records (pg. 2)
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| Inertia |
tip: if you can build up a collection of very good yet not-so-new tracks, even old ones, that no one heard, or few people did, you'll have one up on most DJs. just because it's 2005 doesn't mean it's good. hell, i found myself spinning techno tracks from 1994 and 1997 last week, and to those who had even heard them, they were nothing but very distant memories or deja-vu's.
so, do that. find older gems that were overlooked. AND also stay current with the new . try to cane the big records as much as possible BEFORE they get too hyped up or burned out. also, create moments for tracks. you must stimulate before you bring to orgasm.
equipped with an arsenal of overlooked gems (which are a lot more than you'd imagine) AND a bunch of new tracks too, you can make some killer sets and always keep 'em guessing. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
don't think of it as playing records, think of it as telling a story |
I don't spin (yet) but that is what I always tell myself. |
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| DJ Intrigue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
tip: if you can build up a collection of very good yet not-so-new tracks, even old ones, that no one heard, or few people did, you'll have one up on most DJs. just because it's 2005 doesn't mean it's good. hell, i found myself spinning techno tracks from 1994 and 1997 last week, and to those who had even heard them, they were nothing but very distant memories or deja-vu's.
so, do that. find older gems that were overlooked. AND also stay current with the new . try to cane the big records as much as possible BEFORE they get too hyped up or burned out. also, create moments for tracks. you must stimulate before you bring to orgasm.
equipped with an arsenal of overlooked gems (which are a lot more than you'd imagine) AND a bunch of new tracks too, you can make some killer sets and always keep 'em guessing. |
That's very true and primarily I do just that. I myself love the Twilo sound and the progressive sound between 1998-2003. The majority of my collection is made up of older prog/tech house tracks from these years that were overlooked or did not generate too much response. And let me tell you, the vast majority of decent progressive tunes from these years are forgotten and seemingly pissed on. I can't stand the new direction progressive is taking and all that Markus Schulz bull makes things worse for me. So, I have very few current records from this year and last. I do have quite a few older gems that others probably don't know about and I feel they, along with the styles of house I spin define me as a dj.
However, I get the general impression that many on this board, more specifically those who dj, think it is the sin of all sins to play older tunes and new tunes are the only way. For me, it's about the musical journey and getting those right tracks to mix perfectly back to back regardless of whether they are new or old. I spin what I like and try to eliminate all filler as much as possible which is the plague of so many compilations nowadays. Each track I spin I want to stand on its own and be noteworthy by itself. I just don't understand why people are so hellbent on whoring the new music and not bothering with the old... and by old I don't mean the so-called classics. So, yeah, I definitely agree with finding older, more forgotten tracks. Some of the current overplayed tracks are ok, I guess, so as long as you like the track and you don't try to emulate the big name dj's and their playlists. |
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| 3xx3r7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
tip: if you can build up a collection of very good yet not-so-new tracks, even old ones, that no one heard, or few people did, you'll have one up on most DJs. just because it's 2005 doesn't mean it's good. hell, i found myself spinning techno tracks from 1994 and 1997 last week, and to those who had even heard them, they were nothing but very distant memories or deja-vu's.
so, do that. find older gems that were overlooked. AND also stay current with the new . try to cane the big records as much as possible BEFORE they get too hyped up or burned out. also, create moments for tracks. you must stimulate before you bring to orgasm.
equipped with an arsenal of overlooked gems (which are a lot more than you'd imagine) AND a bunch of new tracks too, you can make some killer sets and always keep 'em guessing. |
Could have said better myself. |
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| basd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
That's very true and primarily I do just that. I myself love the Twilo sound and the progressive sound between 1998-2003. The majority of my collection is made up of older prog/tech house tracks from these years that were overlooked or did not generate too much response. And let me tell you, the vast majority of decent progressive tunes from these years are forgotten and seemingly pissed on. I can't stand the new direction progressive is taking and all that Markus Schulz bull makes things worse for me. So, I have very few current records from this year and last. I do have quite a few older gems that others probably don't know about and I feel they, along with the styles of house I spin define me as a dj.
However, I get the general impression that many on this board, more specifically those who dj, think it is the sin of all sins to play older tunes and new tunes are the only way. For me, it's about the musical journey and getting those right tracks to mix perfectly back to back regardless of whether they are new or old. I spin what I like and try to eliminate all filler as much as possible which is the plague of so many compilations nowadays. Each track I spin I want to stand on its own and be noteworthy by itself. I just don't understand why people are so hellbent on whoring the new music and not bothering with the old... and by old I don't mean the so-called classics. So, yeah, I definitely agree with finding older, more forgotten tracks. Some of the current overplayed tracks are ok, I guess, so as long as you like the track and you don't try to emulate the big name dj's and their playlists. |
I like your attitude. It goes for me as well (and it saves me a lot of typing :p )
Only small problem I have is that I can't really find that many tracks that really, really suit my tastes. Maybe I'm too picky, maybe I don't look hard enough yet, but it is true though. |
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| Exodus17 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chris d(-_-)b
When playing for a crowd people expect you to play what they like. Tunes like ATRC and Satellite grow old VERY fast, since they are heavily played by big names before their releases. Many less experienced(noob) Djs srew up by playing these big tunes thinking they will work well for the audience. However, i don't think any dj should select his/her playlist based on how popular the tunes are, but rather how well they fit to the occasion. One more thing; if you make a mixtape for promotional purpose, NEVER use newly released massive tunes in it, or you will loose all credability as far as the promoters are concerned. I know from experience that many promoters and partyorganisers highlight the track selection and originality of the the Djs over the ammount of new hits he plays. |
wow good points.. hadnt thought of those...yikes! im gonna want to get some more tunes:wtf: cus im looking at my bag right now and 90% of it is pretty well known stuff...
yea it is telling a story... ive always thought of it like that in that exact same context... but ppl can suck and theyre quick to turn their backs on a story they alredy know:(
ooh... another thing when looking for new vinyl... PPL WANNA DANCE! buy stuff ppl can dance to |
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| saryn |
another way to get some 'underground' stuff is by buying large collections off ebay. its alittle risky though. when i bought a set like that i knew they guy. the original auction was for 12 records. but i worked out a deal, paid him 100 bucks, he looked through his collection and found 13 other records in addition to those in the auction that suited my tastes. he did a real good job picking tunes out. alot of them i never knew about, but i love them now.
my favorite out of the group is bedrock - heaven scent (i think thats what its called the label isnt real clear)
i got a total of 25 records for 100 bucks including shipping from the UK to US. which had to done twice due to customs.... waited 3 months for them.... but they are here now. |
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| Exodus17 |
hmm... heaven scent eh?
sorry bro but thats not very underground... good tune tho |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Johwa
they all seem to be either tracks that Armin, Ferry, and Tiesto are playing to death, or (to my ears) fairly poorly produced/boring records. Do any of you guys run into this problem? Or is this just one of the realities of spinning a genre that (IMO more than any other form of EDM) is dominated by big-name famous DJs? |
Heres the reason why its hard to find good trance...
Most of the new stuff does SUCK. Any good stuff that emerges gets beaten to death by the time it hits record stores. |
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| Rhue |
| quote: | Originally posted by saryn
another way to get some 'underground' stuff is by buying large collections off ebay. its alittle risky though. when i bought a set like that i knew they guy. the original auction was for 12 records. but i worked out a deal, paid him 100 bucks, he looked through his collection and found 13 other records in addition to those in the auction that suited my tastes. he did a real good job picking tunes out. alot of them i never knew about, but i love them now.
my favorite out of the group is bedrock - heaven scent (i think thats what its called the label isnt real clear)
i got a total of 25 records for 100 bucks including shipping from the UK to US. which had to done twice due to customs.... waited 3 months for them.... but they are here now. |
You hadn't heard Heaven scent before!!!! :eek: :eek: :whip: |
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| saryn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Exodus17
hmm... heaven scent eh?
sorry bro but thats not very underground... good tune tho |
good to know. ahh newbs. so fun.. but not really. i never heard of it, alot of people i had talked to about it hadnt either. |
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