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| fastmp3 |
| muslims in the muslim world do not consider it as a sect |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by fastmp3
muslims in the muslim world do not consider it as a sect |
Yea and Christians dont consider Christianity a "religion" either but we both know thats a load of poop |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fastmp3
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You haven't been around here for a while, have you? Check out Nellie's posts... |
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
please i don't want my thread becomes like ST ANDREW's one a vulgar thread about food hehe :p :D |
We're so nice to you Marie. This thread we turned into a debate on whether some sect is a muslim sect or just a sect practiced by muslims. I'm sure you appreciate this. :) |
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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
We're so nice to you Marie. This thread we turned into a debate on whether some sect is a muslim sect or just a sect practiced by muslims. I'm sure you appreciate this. :) |
indeed :stongue: well it doesn't bother me |
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| Subey |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
i don't know if u heard about this so called religious movement with is kabal and present in different countries but mostly US ....a lot of stars such as madonna david and victoria beckham or britney spears are belonging to it
i've read an article about it and it's scandalous because it's just lies and money ....they teach us how to read the hand's lines or some other stupid thing but u gotta buy a lot of things like a red bracelet or some water called kabal to purify your soul and don't get sick
did u hear about this sect too?what's your opinions about it?
discuss and please i don't want my thread becomes like ST ANDREW's one a vulgar thread about food hehe :p :D |
A couple of questions.
1)To you what makes one method to acquire money more legitimate than another? Apparently selling a bracelet bothers you? Does passing a collection plate?
2)On what basis do you determine that it is lies? Is Kabbalah's Tree of Life a more dishonest interpretation of the divine than Allah?
3)Mel Gibson is a big star, he is obviously Roman Catholic, does the fact that he is a member of this religion reduce its credibility for you? |
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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
to me it's scandalous to abuse of the credibility of people and sell anything pretending some religions or dogma
these people are just fake and use the fact that people have money and that is
so yeah i found that revolting to see how people can manipulate people under a reasurring coverage as religion |
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| zig |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
We're so nice to you Marie. This thread we turned into a debate on whether some sect is a muslim sect or just a sect practiced by muslims. I'm sure you appreciate this. :) |
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: ......i laughed out loud at this. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
to me it's scandalous to abuse of the credibility of people and sell anything pretending some religions or dogma
these people are just fake and use the fact that people have money and that is
so yeah i found that revolting to see how people can manipulate people under a reasurring coverage as religion |
It is a genuine religion, nothing fake about it, as I said earlier I think it is an esoteric (mystical) belief with its origins in Judaism. Its a spiritual religion like Bhuddism I would imagine |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | kabbalah or cabala (both: kb´l) (KEY) [Heb.,=reception], esoteric system of interpretation of the Scriptures based upon a tradition claimed to have been handed down orally from Abraham. Despite that claimed antiquity, the system appears to have been given its earliest formulation in the 11th cent. in France, and from there spread most notably to Spain. There were undoubtedly precedents, however; kabbalistic elements are discernible in the literature of earlier Merkavah mysticism (fl. after c.A.D. 100) inspired by the vision of the chariot-throne ("merkavah") in the Book of Ezekiel. Beyond the specifically Jewish notions contained within the kabbalah, some scholars believe that it reflects a strong Neoplatonic influence, especially in its doctrines of emanation and the transmigration of souls (see Neoplatonism). In the late 15th and 16th cent., Christian thinkers found support in the kabbalah for their own doctrines, out of which they developed a Christian version. Kabbalistic interpretation of Scripture was based on the belief that every word, letter, number, and even accent contained mysteries interpretable by those who knew the secret. The names for God were believed to contain miraculous power and each letter of the divine name was considered potent; kabbalistic signs and writings were used as amulets and in magical practices.
The two principal sources of the kabbalists are the Sefer Yezirah (tr. Book of Creation, 1894) and the Zohar (tr. 1949; The Book of Enlightenment, 1985; The Book of Splendor, 1995). The first develops, in a series of monologues supposedly delivered by Abraham, the doctrine of the Sefirot (the powers emanating from God, through which the world is created and its order sustained), using the primordial numbers of the later Pythagoreans in a system of numerical interpretation. It was probably written in the 3d cent. The Zohar consists of mystical commentaries and homilies on the Pentateuch. It was written by Moses de León (13th cent.) but attributed by him to Simon ben Yohai, the great scholar of the 2d cent. A.D. Following the expulsion (1492) of the Jews from Spain, kabbalah became more messianic in its emphasis, as developed by the Lurianic school of mystics at Safed, Palestine. Kabbalah in this form was widely adopted and created fertile gound for the movement of the pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi. It was also a major influence in the development of Hasidism. Kabbalah still has adherents, especially among Hasidic Jews.
2 See G. Scholem, On the Kabbalah and Its Symbolism (1965) and Kabbalah (1974); H. Weiner, Nine and One Half Mystics: The Kabbalah Today (1969); J. Dan and F. Talmage, ed., Studies in Jewish Mysticism (1982); D. Rosenberg, Dreams of Being Eaten Alive: The Literary Core of the Kabbalah (2000).
http://www.bartleby.com/65/ka/kabbalah.html
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