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PC recommendations... (pg. 3)
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| Rob |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSimonB
Thanks for that :)
Would still need hard drive, OS, CD drive, monitor, soundcard, mouse & keyboard (tell me if i missed anything) but it still seems pretty reasonable. And maybe a bit more memory. |
Can't you just use your current monitor, OS, CD drive, mouse and keyboard? And yeah, you'll need a hard drive. Make sure you get a Serial ATA (SATA) harddrive, as they're considerably faster then the old ATA harddrives.
Seagate 120 GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA (£52.96)
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The thing with the socket 939 cpu's I've seen is that they generally don't seem as fast (GHz wise) compared to the 754's. Do they make up for that in other areas? Cos I'm not sure how important the GHz is.
How much better is 3500+ than the 3000? Big price difference.
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The Ghz war is totally irrelevant. If GHz was the determining factor of performance, then a 3.0C GHz P4 would destroy a S939 AMD64 3000+ which only runs at 1.8GHz. It doesn't tho.
And yes, the Socket 754 AMD 64 3000+ runs at 2.0ghz, while the Socket 939 64 3000+ runs at 1.8ghz. Don't let that fool you tho. The S939 is a totally improved architecture, and the S939 CPU runs a faster core (90nm compared to the S754 120nm core). The S939 architecture is also the same architecture the Athlon 64-FX's use, so when the prices come down in a year or two, it would make for an awesome upgrade.
Even today, the price difference beteen a 3000+ & 3500+ doesn't seem justified, mainly because I too was on a tight budget, and the only thing you're paying for is priority technology. These are the top selling CPU's at the moment on that site.
1. AMD Athlon 64 3500+
2. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939
3. AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939
4. AMD Athlon XP 3000+ Barton
5. AMD Athlon 64 3000+
6. Intel Pentium 4 3.0C GHz HyperThreading
7. AMD Athlon 64 3400+
8. AMD Athlon 64 3200+
9. AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton
10. AMD Sempron 3000+ Socket A
11. AMD Athlon 64 2800+
12. Intel Pentium 4 3.0E GHz HyperThreading
13. AMD Athlon 64 3800+
14. AMD Athlon 64 4000+
15. AMD Sempron 2800+ Socket A
The Socket 939 3000+ is surely the best bang for your buck CPU at the moment, and the only reason I'd get a 3500+ is if I had alot of extra money to burn. Sure you could get a 3500+, but you'll be considerably more out of pocket.
The socket 939 3000+ can do eventhing, and with it, I'm sure you'll have a better PC then alot of people who have made really really nice tracks. The best thing to do of course would be to research everything up for yourself. It took me a week of research to decide what was best, and I was upgrading from a Duron 800 :nervous: |
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| DjSimonB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rob
Can't you just use your current monitor, OS, CD drive, mouse and keyboard? And yeah, you'll need a hard drive. Make sure you get a Serial ATA (SATA) harddrive, as they're considerably faster then the old ATA harddrives.
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SATA, I'll keep that in mind...
And I can't use peripherals from this computer. It's not even my own computer, it's just the family computer, which is fortunately just fast enough to run Reason on so that's what I've been doing... .and it's a Mac so I can't really install the OS on a PC.
At least these things aren't the hardest to choose, even I can understand the differences between monitors, mice, keyboards, etc. |
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| digitalifeform |
aight guys I had an AMD 64bit 3000+ .... and I have always been a fan of AMD but after a bunch of research ... I decided to go with an Intel P4 640.... the 640 runns at 3.2GHz, has 2MB L2 Cache, supports Hyper Threading Tech, and is 64bit compatible.
When Compairing this processor to my AMD, it makes me want to put my nuts in a blender and hit high for ever buying the AMD! If your a gamer then go with the AMD, but if you looking for pro processing and audio processing etc... INTEL is the way to go for sure! |
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| sot |
| hmm im in the same situation too. right now i got a ty p4 1.9 ghz and i jus wanna upgrade my cpu, motherboard, ram, new case and fan and powersupply. my friend said same thing, amd is for gaming, p4 is for audio, which is the smart way to go? and what exactly would i need considering all i wanna do is upgrade my current pc setup |
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| digitalifeform |
| quote: | Originally posted by sot
hmm im in the same situation too. right now i got a ty p4 1.9 ghz and i jus wanna upgrade my cpu, motherboard, ram, new case and fan and powersupply. my friend said same thing, amd is for gaming, p4 is for audio, which is the smart way to go? and what exactly would i need considering all i wanna do is upgrade my current pc setup |
well just cpu motherboard ram case fan powersupply = new computer with your old hard drive, cd, and video card.... you have to see what your geared to to... do you have a good sound card already?
personally I have a ....
p4 650 HHT
ASUS MB w/ 925 Chipset
2 Gig Corsair RAM
120 Gig SATA Maxtor HD
GForce 5900XT
E-MU 0404 Sound Card
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case
Dual 19" ViewSonic LCDs
I use Cubase SX 2.0 for production and with all the vsts i run powerful processing is a must.... like i said this new system rips through my old AMD 64bit 3000+ |
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| Nic |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSimonB
SATA, I'll keep that in mind...
And I can't use peripherals from this computer. It's not even my own computer, it's just the family computer, which is fortunately just fast enough to run Reason on so that's what I've been doing... .and it's a Mac so I can't really install the OS on a PC.
At least these things aren't the hardest to choose, even I can understand the differences between monitors, mice, keyboards, etc. |
have you tried cubase, logic or ableton live on it? how fast is it? i'll swap you my p4 :D, i'm thinking of ditching it for a mac for production |
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| hardikaveri |
processor SPEED and PERFORMANCE aint equal than HZ's
i got 3500 + (2 ghz) and my bro got intle 3,2(ghz)
and speed is same.. only thing witch separate theese 2 chips is heat..
i got all the time about 40 degrees BUT intel's temperature is all the time over 60.. sometimes even 75. |
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| sot |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitalifeform
well just cpu motherboard ram case fan powersupply = new computer with your old hard drive, cd, and video card.... you have to see what your geared to to... do you have a good sound card already?
personally I have a ....
p4 650 HHT
ASUS MB w/ 925 Chipset
2 Gig Corsair RAM
120 Gig SATA Maxtor HD
GForce 5900XT
E-MU 0404 Sound Card
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case
Dual 19" ViewSonic LCDs
I use Cubase SX 2.0 for production and with all the vsts i run powerful processing is a must.... like i said this new system rips through my old AMD 64bit 3000+ |
sounds very sexy..how much did all that cost ya? and right now im using FL Studio for my tunes but once i get this new comp up and running i will switch to Cubase SX 3.0..and i have a m-audio 24-96 soundcard and a 200 gb external and a 160 internal. and what site do u suggest i get my stuff off of? newegg or pricewatch? new egg right? |
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| EliPsE |
| I use newegg all the time and i usually find the lowest prices there. They also use fedex which i prefer over ups and my stuff usually comes 1 day earlier :) |
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| h.vox |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitalifeform
aight guys I had an AMD 64bit 3000+ .... and I have always been a fan of AMD but after a bunch of research ... I decided to go with an Intel P4 640.... the 640 runns at 3.2GHz, has 2MB L2 Cache, supports Hyper Threading Tech, and is 64bit compatible.
When Compairing this processor to my AMD, it makes me want to put my nuts in a blender and hit high for ever buying the AMD! If your a gamer then go with the AMD, but if you looking for pro processing and audio processing etc... INTEL is the way to go for sure! |
ok, once again ... because of the processor architecture (the intel p4 has almost two times longer the pipeline than the one in amd64) amd is much more efficient in multiple processing - like tons of vst instruments and plugins, and, of course, gaming. intel cpus are much better at video and audio decoding and encoding because it is a matter of processing a single stream of data. ok? |
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| DjSimonB |
| quote: | Originally posted by h.vox
ok, once again ... because of the processor architecture (the intel p4 has almost two times longer the pipeline than the one in amd64) amd is much more efficient in multiple processing - like tons of vst instruments and plugins, and, of course, gaming. intel cpus are much better at video and audio decoding and encoding because it is a matter of processing a single stream of data. ok? |
So which is better for producing, then?
I use Reason just now but like I said I might end up using Cubase too. Which would involve using VST's. |
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| h.vox |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSimonB
So which is better for producing, then?
I use Reason just now but like I said I might end up using Cubase too. Which would involve using VST's. |
i thought it was clear from my post. amd. unless you compare athlon64 3000 (512 kb cache) with a 3.6 ghz p4 (2 mb cache), but guess which one is more expensive. and how much more. |
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