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Gay marriage in your country? (pg. 2)
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| Renegade |
Oops, sorry. Just noticed this:
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
Also I could just say I'm a homo and my mate who I'm living with is a homo so we get tax breaks. Not cool. |
This seems to be a popular "argument" against gay marriage, but let me ask you: what's stopping you from doing exactly the same thing with a female friend right now? |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
This seems to be a popular "argument" against gay marriage, but let me ask you: what's stopping you from doing exactly the same thing with a female friend right now? |
exactly, and its not like living together is enough, but you have to be married / be in a union, which is not just something you do to get tax breaks! |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Oops, sorry. Just noticed this:
This seems to be a popular "argument" against gay marriage, but let me ask you: what's stopping you from doing exactly the same thing with a female friend right now? |
Well, yes, that is true, but still..with a female friend u usually have at least some chance of getting offspring. |
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| Aquarian |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Well, yes, that is true, but still..with a female friend u usually have at least some chance of getting offspring. |
But not always. Gay couples can also adopt. I don't see any law preventing infertile couples from adopting, so that argument pretty much falls apart. |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Renegade This seems to be a popular "argument" against gay marriage, but let me ask you: what's stopping you from doing exactly the same thing with a female friend right now? |
Well yeah, but the point is that the tax breaks are for having (or the potential of) kids not because you are living with your partner.
Plus I'd recon it would be much more likly to be living with a male mate than a female. Same for women too, but the first point is the real reason. :tongue2 |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
Well yeah, but the point is that the tax breaks are for having (or the potential of) kids not because you are living with your partner. |
why dont you get tax break for having children then instead?! that really doesnt make sense... |
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| Dervish |
You do here (child tax credits), you even get money can't remember what it is of the top of my head. Wrt marriage I think it's more the potential of having kids. Because of failing population and so on.
| quote: | Couples
A couple is:
• a man or a woman who are married and living together, or
• a man and a woman living together as if they are married.
Note:
1. Couples must make a joint claim for tax credits. You must both fill in the claim form and are jointly responsible for the information provided.
2. If you are part of a couple you cannot claim for tax credits as a single person. |
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| quote: | | Child Tax Credit is for people who are responsible for at least one child or qualifying young person. Child Tax Credit is paid direct to the person who is mainly responsible for caring for the child or children. If you are a lone parent you will receive the payment. Child Tax Credit can be paid to workers who continue to pay UK National Insurance Contributions when posted from the UK to work in another country in the European Economic Area. |
So if you were a gay couple and looking after a kid you'd still get money (but since you can't independantly make new kids you don't get the benifits of hetro couples).
Supose it is kinda weird though cos all it takes for a les couple to have kid is a cup of seaman and a turkey baster :toothless and for gay guys a surrogate mother. But I supose they would still get the credits for that.
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
You do here (child tax credits), you even get money can't remember what it is of the top of my head. Wrt marriage I think it's more the potential of having kids. Because of failing population and so on. |
doesnt make sense to me... either you give the tax breaks to ppl that have children, or you give it to all "serious" couples? what about a hetro marriage otherwise that doesnt get children, would they be obligated to repay their money then? |
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| zig |
Ireland = Forbidden
But talk of giving same sex couples certain rights which they now do not have, but marraige not likely in the foreseeable future. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by zig
Ireland = Forbidden
But talk of giving same sex couples certain rights which they now do not have, but marraige not likely in the foreseeable future. |
Thats cos only until very recently Ireland used to be a theocracy! :p |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Oops, sorry. Just noticed this:
This seems to be a popular "argument" against gay marriage, but let me ask you: what's stopping you from doing exactly the same thing with a female friend right now? |
My mate let it slip down the dole office that he was livin with his girlfriend so they stopped his job seekers allowance as they classed his girlfriend as a depenant! So thats whats stoppin people doin it now!!! |
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| zig |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Thats cos only until very recently Ireland used to be a theocracy! :p |
It still is to a lot of people, recently, about a year ago i brought this subject up with a group of my friends, all male, and the level of intolerence was a bit scarey, and then i brought up the subject of adoption by gay men (just to stir it up a bit more:D ) and then it got totally out of hand, most of them were outraged at the idea......so yeah i cant see it happening here anytime soon, and these were people i would consider to be pretty layed back about most things.......except this. |
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