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Original Cafe del Mar (where to find)
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| SiliconWarlord |
i'm new to trance.
i just heard one of the 3-n-1's mixes of energy 52's cafe del mar on a dance mix cd (one of the circuit party sets - which stink generally imho). i found and bought the cafe del mar ep remix cd. it has a number of remixes on it. i've searched the net and can find a lot of remixes - i just can't find the original.
does an "original" even exit?
the "kid paul remix" is on the above mentioned cd but is this the original "mix" or, as it implies, a "remix"?
if so, does anyone know where i can get it?
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| tactik |
Afaik the original was never released. The Kid Paul Remix and Cosmic Baby's Impression are therefore as close to the original as you can get.
Someone here will probably have the full story, at least I hope so. :D |
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| GrimReaper |
This has been asked a million times before and i've told this as many times. :p
Original Mix (6:22) from around 1991 does exist but for some reason was never officially released on CD or 12". I don't have it either.. anymore, i once had it on tape tho but i've lost it. Paul 'Kid Paul' Moormann and Harald 'Cosmic Baby' Blüchel dumped the original soon after it was made but due to demand from friends and fellow DJs after they had heard the original somewhere somehow, Paul & Harald were almost forced to dig it up. So they reworked it and made their own views of it and finally after a pretty long while.. Café Del Mar mixes got out in early 1993, Kid Paul's & Cosmic Baby's mixes backed up with Kid Paul's alternate version, Peace Mix and Ralf Hildenbeutel's Porte de Bagnolet Mix. Soundwise Kid Paul Mix is closest to original even if not exactly the same. So not surprisingly, Kid Paul Mix is nowadays known as the original.
Three'n'One Remix of which many falsely think as the original, came out in 1997 along with mixes from Solar Stone, Universal State Of Mind, Josh Abrahams (Aussie release only) and Oliver Lieb. Ivan Mix is also by Lieb and is a bit darker take on it.
In 1998 came out my fav version, Nalin & Kane Remix, flipped with Hybrid's breaks version.
1999 came out the 'US Mixes' by Deepsky and Pure Nova & DJ Eyal Project which both were quite disappointing IMO, was expecting much more from Deepsky.
In 2000 got limitedly released Michael Woods and Humate trancey ambient mixes, both getting bigger releases a few years later, in 2002.
As mentioned, in 2002 got Michael Woods' splendid trancey ambient mix finally released officially, backed up with new mixes from John '00' Fleming and Marco V and Three'n'One delivered their subtly updated '97 mix.
2003 got very limitedly released Kid Loops Remix (again for those damn Aussies only :toothless ) which is very similar to his mix of L.S.G. - Netherworld. The new remixes (Justin F, Kenny Hayes, Neo & Barbwire) and remakes (Fragma - Man In The Moon *cough*) released since then aren't worth mentioning.. they are all rubbish. Below a list of all mixes i've bothered to dig up.
1991
NR 52 - Café Del Mar
Original Mix (6:22 or so, can't remember exactly as i don't have this anywhere anymore)
Energy 52 - Café Del Mar
1993
Cosmic Baby's Impression (6:45)
Kid Paul Mix (7:16) >> nowadays known as Original Mix
Peace Mix (7:13) >> by Kid Paul
Porte de Bagnolet Mix (5:53) >> by Ralf Hildenbeutel aka Sven Väth's co-producer
1997
Ivan Remix (8:06) >> by Oliver Lieb
Josh Abraham's Down Under Remix (7:03)
Kid Paul Radio Mix (3:32)
Oliver Lieb Radio Mix 1 (3:40)
Oliver Lieb Radio Mix 2 (3:55)
Oliver Lieb's LSG Remix (7:44) >> aka Oliver Lieb Mix 1
Oliver Lieb Mix 2 (7:30)
Solar Stone Remix (8:37)
Three'n'One Radio Mix (3:50)
Three'n'One Remix (8:43)
Universal State Of Mind Mix (7:15)
1998
Hybrid's Time Traveller Remix (6:36)
Nalin & Kane Radio Cut (3:57)
Nalin & Kane Remix (9:42)
Nalin & Kane Remix Edit (9:16)
Three'n'One Radio Mix 2 (3:37)
Three'n'One Remix Edit (8:15)
1999
Deepsky's Stateside Cannon Remix (7:35)
Pure Nova & DJ Eyal Project Remix (7:50)
Unknown Whitelabel Bootleg Mix (7:45) >> rumoured to be by Kid paul or Cosmic Baby but i doubt it strongly
2000
Humate Ambient Remix (7:07)
Michael Woods Ambient Mix (10:25) >> limited release
2002
Humate Ambient Remix Edit (6:33)
John "00" Fleming Remix (10:07)
Marco V Radio Edit (3:08)
Marco V Remix Edit (6:58)
Marco V Remix (8:34)
Michael Woods Ambient Mix Edit (9:26)
Michael Woods Ambient Mix (10:26)
Three'n'One Update Radio Edit (3:19)
Three'n'One Update (8:55)
2003
Justin F Remix (7:04)
Kid Loops Remix (7:39)
2004
Kenny Hayes Remix
Neo & Barbwire Remake
Fragma - Man In The Moon (cheesy vocal remake of Café Del Mar)
2003 Club Mix (7:45)
DJ Kadozer Dub (5:45)
DJ Kadozer Remix (6:13)
Duderstadt Remix (6:06)
Video Version (2:32) |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by GrimReaper
This has been asked a million times before and i've told this as many times. :p
Original Mix (6:22) from around 1991 does exist but for some reason was never officially released on CD or 12". I don't have it either.. anymore, i once had it on tape tho but i've lost it. Paul 'Kid Paul' Moormann and Harald 'Cosmic Baby' Blüchel dumped the original soon after it was made but due to demand from friends and fellow DJs after they had heard the original somewhere somehow, Paul & Harald were almost forced to dig it up. So they reworked it and made their own views of it and finally after a pretty long while.. Café Del Mar mixes got out in early 1993, Kid Paul's & Cosmic Baby's mixes backed up with Kid Paul's alternate version, Peace Mix and Ralf Hildenbeutel's Porte de Bagnolet Mix. Soundwise Kid Paul Mix is closest to original even if not exactly the same. So not surprisingly, Kid Paul Mix is nowadays known as the original.
Three'n'One Remix of which many falsely think as the original, came out in 1997 along with mixes from Solar Stone, Universal State Of Mind, Josh Abrahams (Aussie release only) and Oliver Lieb. Ivan Mix is also by Lieb and is a bit darker take on it.
In 1998 came out my fav version, Nalin & Kane Remix, flipped with Hybrid's breaks version.
1999 came out the 'US Mixes' by Deepsky and Pure Nova & DJ Eyal Project which both were quite disappointing IMO, was expecting much more from Deepsky.
In 2000 got limitedly released Michael Woods and Humate trancey ambient mixes, both getting bigger releases a few years later, in 2002.
As mentioned, in 2002 got Michael Woods' splendid trancey ambient mix finally released officially, backed up with new mixes from John '00' Fleming and Marco V and Three'n'One delivered their subtly updated '97 mix.
2003 got very limitedly released Kid Loops Remix (again for those damn Aussies only :toothless ) which is very similar to his mix of L.S.G. - Netherworld. The new remixes (Justin F, Kenny Hayes, Neo & Barbwire) and remakes (Fragma - Man In The Moon *cough*) released since then aren't worth mentioning.. they are all rubbish. Below a list of all mixes i've bothered to dig up.
1991
NR 52 - Café Del Mar
Original Mix (6:22 or so, can't remember exactly as i don't have this anywhere anymore)
Energy 52 - Café Del Mar
1993
Cosmic Baby's Impression (6:45)
Kid Paul Mix (7:16) >> nowadays known as Original Mix
Peace Mix (7:13) >> by Kid Paul
Porte de Bagnolet Mix (5:53) >> by Ralf Hildenbeutel aka Sven Väth's co-producer
1997
Ivan Remix (8:06) >> by Oliver Lieb
Josh Abraham's Down Under Remix (7:03)
Kid Paul Radio Mix (3:32)
Oliver Lieb Radio Mix 1 (3:40)
Oliver Lieb Radio Mix 2 (3:55)
Oliver Lieb's LSG Remix (7:44) >> aka Oliver Lieb Mix 1
Oliver Lieb Mix 2 (7:30)
Solar Stone Remix (8:37)
Three'n'One Radio Mix (3:50)
Three'n'One Remix (8:43)
Universal State Of Mind Mix (7:15)
1998
Hybrid's Time Traveller Remix (6:36)
Nalin & Kane Radio Cut (3:57)
Nalin & Kane Remix (9:42)
Nalin & Kane Remix Edit (9:16)
Three'n'One Radio Mix 2 (3:37)
Three'n'One Remix Edit (8:15)
1999
Deepsky's Stateside Cannon Remix (7:35)
Pure Nova & DJ Eyal Project Remix (7:50)
Unknown Whitelabel Bootleg Mix (7:45) >> rumoured to be by Kid paul or Cosmic Baby but i doubt it strongly
2000
Humate Ambient Remix (7:07)
Michael Woods Ambient Mix (10:25) >> limited release
2002
Humate Ambient Remix Edit (6:33)
John "00" Fleming Remix (10:07)
Marco V Radio Edit (3:08)
Marco V Remix Edit (6:58)
Marco V Remix (8:34)
Michael Woods Ambient Mix Edit (9:26)
Michael Woods Ambient Mix (10:26)
Three'n'One Update Radio Edit (3:19)
Three'n'One Update (8:55)
2003
Justin F Remix (7:04)
Kid Loops Remix (7:39)
2004
Kenny Hayes Remix
Neo & Barbwire Remake
Fragma - Man In The Moon (cheesy vocal remake of Café Del Mar)
2003 Club Mix (7:45)
DJ Kadozer Dub (5:45)
DJ Kadozer Remix (6:13)
Duderstadt Remix (6:06)
Video Version (2:32) |
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good track :D
grim stinks of wee :p |
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| GrimReaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
bla bla bla....blablablabla...
good track :D
grim stinks of wee :p |
Yeah, i actually might stink a bit because i've been doing some gardening lately. But i didn't think it would get that far. You must have a dog's sense of smell or something. Hey, now i got it why you are always snooping everyone's butts.. :stongue: |
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| Project 7 |
| Wasnt the Kenny Hayes remix never realeased as a full track? think it only appeared on a mix cd, Floorfillers werent it? I quite like the track :nervous: |
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| GrimReaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Project 7
Wasnt the Kenny Hayes remix never realeased as a full track? think it only appeared on a mix cd, Floorfillers werent it? I quite like the track :nervous: |
I never liked that one, not even a bit, it's simply horrible IMO. But i guess it wasn't released officially then.. i remember seeing whitelabels of it here and there sometimes last year. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by GrimReaper
Yeah, i actually might stink a bit because i've been doing some gardening lately. But i didn't think it would get that far. You must have a dog's sense of smell or something. Hey, now i got it why you are always snooping everyone's butts.. :stongue: |
:stongue: :stongue: you're so funny :p |
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| SiliconWarlord |
whew!
now that the dust has settled ... what are good on-line sources for trance in general?
i just purchased 2 cds with only cafe del mar remixes and am considering another on ebay with only red sun rising remixes ... but are there mp3 download sites that lean toward trance?
i saw a lange remix of red sun rising on walmart's music download site (of all places!) but was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of other sites? |
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| basilisk |
Kudos for the detailed history. This was one of my original "hey what the is that" tunes, back in the day.
I wonder what the connection to some early SFX may be... I believe it is Hypnotica, or Reaching Out, or maybe Butterfly Trip that sounds very much like Cafe Del Mar at some points... if you enjoy the old trance styles, do yourself a favour and dig up early works by SFX. The group later re-arranged as a name you'll probably know: Astral Projection ;) |
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