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fr3sh
hello everyone... I am finally going to do what a true 'DJ addict' does... I am going to build a custom DJ console and turn the 500 square foot room into some sort of a 'club' type setup... it has a hardwood floor which is perfect for dancing

ive got an idea of what i am going to do with the console, but here is where i am hoping to get the input of my knowledgable TA friends.... the speaker setup...

I live on 6 acres and so do my neighbors... so the louder the better... but in such a confined space... i suppose I can only do so much

I would like to have a setup that i can practice with by myself but also one that can rock the house when people come to party


price is kind of an issue but only to an certain extent

right now i am thinking

2 PA type speakers (with 15" subs in them)
2 powered monitors
1 amp


the specs I can't really list with my limited knowledge

so any input from you guys would be great

thanks
Inertia
4 Mackie SRM-450s and you should be MORE than good to go. consider a sub if you want the low end punch, but i wouldn't think it to be necessary. of course, this is not much of a budget deal, but i am just in love with those things, hehe. also eliminates the need for an amp altogether.
tvmann
I just got a pair of Peavey PR15 speakers, they're inexpensive, $200 each, & good but designed for a bigger place than a basement club room. Have a tweeter and 15" woofer. They sound best if running pretty loud, and if listeners are at least 20 feet away (sound a little harsh close-in). Need an amplifier such as a Samson S1000 which is about $400. This setup would sound good outside and have enough volume. So your total cost about $600 US plus some stands or wall brackets for the speakers. Then there's your monitors which are more $, these should probably be good quality since you'd be practicing on these a lot and maybe just use the main speakers when a party is on.

You might get better sound quality from a big set of home speakers if you are in a space that is not very big such as your 500 s.f. room. Home speakers & subwoofers have a more "mellow" sound but dont work very well to project the sound very far.
dinoXpress
any pics we could see so we could get a better idea?
fr3sh
ill see if i get my friend's digi for pics

but for now its about 500 sq feet.... a square room (possibly rectanglar)

i'm going to put the dj booth in the corner

will probably start building my console in the next few weeks

i am debating what to do with the cdj 1000's.... im thinking of the best way to have them elevated and tilted... also debating whether to make my TT's flush. i plan on upgrading my mixer so it will look weird with an unflush mixer and flush TT's


so many things...
dinoXpress
i personally enjoy elevated cdjs above each turntable maybe at an angle and a mixer on an angle is always awesome,

flush tables are awesome as well


edit: i reccomend some sort of sound proofing as well, most clubs have sound in mind at at least one point in the design process. the architect of your house did not. if ur serious about this, id hire a sound guy for an hour to come over and tell you what u need to maximize the sound potential

edit #2: flush cdjs with an opening at the front are amazing as well. i love flushness.

check out

http://www.dualsf.com
JohnnyMonsoon
quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
4 Mackie SRM-450s and you should be MORE than good to go. consider a sub if you want the low end punch, but i wouldn't think it to be necessary. of course, this is not much of a budget deal, but i am just in love with those things, hehe. also eliminates the need for an amp altogether.


Can't go wrong with the Mackie's what so ever but like Inertia said, that certainly isn't a budget deal.:D 500 sq. ft. isn't all that big to start with so you won't need anything crazy. Good luck and let us see how it turns out.
TranceSpeeder
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=%22basement%22

check that thread i made awhile back.
IntegraR0064
quote:
Originally posted by fr3sh

i'm going to put the dj booth in the corner


I probably wouldn't put it in the corner, I'd put it in the middle of one of the sides of the room. So that you hear the PAs more accurately.

Just my opinion though
fr3sh
quote:
Originally posted by IntegraR0064
I probably wouldn't put it in the corner, I'd put it in the middle of one of the sides of the room. So that you hear the PAs more accurately.

Just my opinion though


I was thinking of having active monitors right on the dj console at my ear level

IntegraR0064
quote:
Originally posted by fr3sh
I was thinking of having active monitors right on the dj console at my ear level


Right...but you usually hear the PA too. It sort of depends on how your speakers are set up. You probably could turn up the monitors and ignore the little bit you hear from the PA if you like, but I like turning the monitors a little lower and listening to the PA as well as the monitors.

So yeah, I guess you're right. All comes down to personal preference.
Inertia
in a small room, with loud speakers, a monitor won't be imperative, trust me. when i throw parties at my terrace, which opens up to a huge back yard, only using 2-3 decent PAs, i turn the monitor to the crowd (thank god it's on a pedestal) because my other friends crank it up real high, and if i can mix without it, it's only ing with my ears. many people seem to think that in order for a soundsystem to be efficient, everyone's ears have to bleed.

the whole 'monitor' deal only serves for when sound is getting lost, has a delay, or an echo when it gets to you, causing your mixing to be off. the monitor is a clear source of audio placed near you to banish these evil effects.

what i recommend, is positiong the DJ booth and one of the speakers meant for the dancefloor in a way that the speaker reaches the crowd perfectly, and doubles as a monitor. you can squeeze out more use of your sound this way, and hopefully save a buck or two.

my recommendation tho: if it's a small room, or, 'small' for the amount of sound you've put in it, try mixing without a loud audio source near you. or get a really small speaker and have it play near you. if you can, do it that way. a lot better for your ears. (unless of course you're cranking up the headphones all the way, which is just as bad, if not worse...)
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