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Star Wars Episode III (pg. 3)
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Whether you intentionally swayed the thread in this direction or not, someone else from here would have done the exact same thing had you not done (and not purposely either, just due to the fact that they are thick and unfunny). The thread starter's right, this place is full of ing idiots. I don't know where he originally posted this thread but he was correct in assuming he would have gotten a better debate whatever forum it may have been. |
i agree here is not the place for grown adults to talk about droids, wookies, and 'the force'. If you want to be taken seriously go to a star warz forum. :haha: may the horse be with you. |
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| DJ Mikey Mike |
| Or maybe you've missed the point by a country a mile, and he just simply wanted his thread free of "omggg11!!!oneoen, :wtf: , +100000, n00b" etc? |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I don't know where he originally posted this thread but he was correct in assuming he would have gotten a better debate whatever forum it may have been. |
The politics forum. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Whether you intentionally swayed the thread in this direction or not, someone else from here would have done the exact same thing had you not done (and not purposely either, just due to the fact that they are thick and unfunny). The thread starter's right, this place is full of ing idiots. I don't know where he originally posted this thread but he was correct in assuming he would have gotten a better debate whatever forum it may have been. |
I think the thread starter is an idiot. The political messages in Star Wars are so contrived and artificial that the idea of using it as a spring-board for political discussion is laughable.
Lucas is a pragmatist, and opportunist and very profit-centred if he wasn't he'd have held true to the legacy of his original films and dished out some cash for some decent script-writers). His attempting to satirise economic power is completely unbelievable.
As for philosophical content..... you've gotta be en joking me haven't ya? Since when have trite homilies and truisms, clearly shoved into the script in a vain attempt to give it "intellectual" content been classified as philosophy... give me a break!
Any attempt at a serious discussion starting with the new Star Wars films is bound to go downhill. Cos no one with a shred of intellignece is going to take it seriously. |
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| Dervish |
| Yeah but it has to be caricature of reality otherwise the dumb asses who go and see it will get all confused. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
I think the thread starter is an idiot. The political messages in Star Wars are so contrived and artificial that the idea of using it as a spring-board for political discussion is laughable.
Lucas is a pragmatist, and opportunist and very profit-centred if he wasn't he'd have held true to the legacy of his original films and dished out some cash for some decent script-writers). His attempting to satirise economic power is completely unbelievable.
As for philosophical content..... you've gotta be en joking me haven't ya? Since when have trite homilies and truisms, clearly shoved into the script in a vain attempt to give it "intellectual" content been classified as philosophy... give me a break!
Any attempt at a serious discussion starting with the new Star Wars films is bound to go downhill. Cos no one with a shred of intellignece is going to take it seriously. |
That was a spot on post if i ever read one. reminds me when ppl were delving into the 'deepness' of the matrix sequels and the genius of the W brothers. haha give me a break! Lucas is suffering from delusions of grander, he's an opportunist from the word go. He's milked star wars for all its worth. Don't get me wrong the first 3 movies were very entertaining and set a new standard in special effects, but plz lets not get carried away with using it as a subject of serious political debate. |
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| sym |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
Why ignore, there are some great philosophical undertones to the star wars series, in addition to political ones. The Republic becomes the Empire. "Liberty ends with the sound of applause" |
Great line, I think it was more along the lines of "So this is how liberty dies, to the sound of applause." |
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| Matt |
NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo....................
What a piece of . |
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| Xenocreator_PG_ |
| I ALSO LIKED ATTACK OF THE CLONES. ATTACK OF THE CLONES WAS TOPS. I LIKED IT BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE PADME BOOBIES WHEN SHE FIGHTS THE TIGER MONSTER. I JUST GOT A TUBBY. THE TIGER MONSTER WAS SCARY BUT PADME DIDNT GET HER BOOBIES HURT SO SHE SURVIVED WHICH IS TOPS. |
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| kush paintings |
I started this thread and it sickens me that it was imported here without me knowing. I don't believe that you all are stupid, you are just plan ignorant. One guy puts up a link to maddox. Bitch, please. Yeah, he is funny, but you have to realize the tone of his web page. If you really are going to take his opinion seriously than you truly are stupid.
One down, one to go.
Now the jackoff who was crying about Lucas being a profit driven maniac, where do you get your information? From a bunch of friends in a haze of bong smoke? Even if you are too ignorant to see how the shift from Republic to Empire does not apply to todays politics, especially the U.S., then you truly are stupid. But what, what's that you don't see the philosophical parralels too? Well, I guess I can't expect much from you. I know it is unfair to stereotype the entire Chillout Room as a collection of idiots, so although I want to I will refrain. But you two Sallies are idiots, and from now on I'll assume all idiocy in the Chillout Room comes from you two, so as though I don't unfairly judge anyone. You have proven yourselves worthy of this task and I congratulate you.
Moderators, you do an excellent job on these forums, especially considering the number of users and different rooms. However, I must say that placing this thread hear was a mistake, as it clearly belonged in the PDD. Thank you. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
I started this thread and it sickens me that it was imported here without me knowing. I don't believe that you all are stupid, you are just plan ignorant. One guy puts up a link to maddox. Bitch, please. Yeah, he is funny, but you have to realize the tone of his web page. If you really are going to take his opinion seriously than you truly are stupid. |
As opposed to someone who takes the so-called "serious political commentary" in the new star wars films seriously... pfft give me a break.
| quote: | | Now the jackoff who was crying about Lucas being a profit driven maniac, where do you get your information? From a bunch of friends in a haze of bong smoke? |
You question my sources, yet you do not cite your own. I need no sources. My contention is that the structure of the film stinks of Lucas' trying to cram as much widespread appeal into the film as possible and thereby destroying any possibility of making a good film. Jarjar Binks is a typical example... it's a character designed to appeal to little kids, but simultaeneously it annoys the adult audience. If he'd just decided to stick to making a good film rather than trying to please as many different segments as possible my opinion would have been different. Meanwhile I will continue to think of him as a businessman first and a movie-maker second.
| quote: | | Even if you are too ignorant to see how the shift from Republic to Empire does not apply to todays politics, especially the U.S., then you truly are stupid. |
Ofcourse I see the parallels. But there's no subtlety or complexity to the argument. It's a simple point thrown into the film to, yet again, broaden its appeal. I see the so-called political statement (although this insults REAL political commentators everywhere)... I just think it is poorly made.
| quote: | | But what, what's that you don't see the philosophical parralels too? Well, I guess I can't expect much from you. |
The philosophical parallels between what? (you have distinguished between the political parallels that apply to US politics and Iraq, and these philosophical parallels).
I certainly do see attempts by Lucas and the script writers at quasi-philosophy. But having been interested in and studied some philosophy, I really see very little if any real philosophical content in this film. You counter my arguments by simply claiming that there is philosophical content there - if there is why don't you point it out and tell me what the philosophical point being made is.
| quote: | | I know it is unfair to stereotype the entire Chillout Room as a collection of idiots, so although I want to I will refrain. But you two Sallies are idiots, and from now on I'll assume all idiocy in the Chillout Room comes from you two, so as though I don't unfairly judge anyone. You have proven yourselves worthy of this task and I congratulate you. |
Prove that we're idiots by backing up your argument with examples. Show me the myriad of political and phisosophical insight in that film and I will concede defeat. |
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