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Trance and Techno Definitions (pg. 3)
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Aiwendil
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Originally posted by torontotrance
trance got going in 1987


no it didn't

quote:
and the first stuff did not have melody,


yes it did
torontotrance
you can think what you want radagast
Aiwendil
oh okay smarty pants. what were the big trance tracks of 1987? what were the major trance labels and artists of the late 80's, all-knowing one?
starglider
This should be good.
Ishkur
Psychic TV. Temple Records and Wax Trax! were probably the first labels that started releasing trance music in 1987, followed shortly by KLF Communication's Pure Trance series in 1988--though they planned five, only three tracks were released due to poor response. The reason for this was the music itself--unmelodic and utterly unengaging. Alarmingly minimalist, repetitive, and experimental/abstract, which was the intent: to put the listener in a "trance". A lot of times it was dissonant and atonal. Think of acid house, only with more acid and no point to it. Simply an endlessly looping sequence of beeps and warbles.

Psychic TV's "Towards thee Infinite Beat" was the first full-length trance LP, in 1989. Coil's "Love's Secret Domain" was the last trance LP released by an industrial artist (and by Wax Trax! and Temple Records...the whole 'trance' fad had come and gone for them), in 1991 or somewhere thereabouts.

EYE Q was founded in 1990. MFS was founded in 1991. Harthouse was founded in 1992. The rest is history.
Aiwendil
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
unmelodic and utterly unengaging. Alarmingly minimalist, repetitive, and experimental/abstract, which was the intent: to put the listener in a "trance".


i don't quite follow how those adjectives...well, should i call Akufen trance then?
twisted
man you guys sure like your pissing contests.

"techno was this and that when trance did this and that"

"no! my dick is larger!"
Ishkur
quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
well, should i call Akufen trance then?


You can, but I wouldn't recommend it.

It's a logical fallacy, for one.
Carriegsxr6
hmmmm, Techno was actually what first turned me on to electronic music. I belive my first techno cds back in 1992 were Dont Techno for and Answer; Face of the Future; L.A Harcore Vol 1; Mission to Paradise; A Fist Full of Techno, and some others. Now these are pretty hard core OG techno.
Aiwendil
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
You can, but I wouldn't recommend it.

It's a logical fallacy, for one.


not much of a logical fallacy to point out that none of the words you used to describe why the klf's "pure trance" series qualifies as trance are exclusive to trance music, therefore you have given no true evidence that would lead me to believe that "what time is love" (for example) is trance and not, say, acid house.

i'm sure you, in your knowledge, are able to describe genres in specific terms such as types of chords, tempo, beat pattern, and other tangible discernable elements of music. therefore i ask, do these tracks from Psychic TV, The KLF, and Icon Of Coil fit within the musical specifications which define trance music after it became an established genre?

Stilez
I've always loved Tech. & Trance. most of today's trance dj's managed to sneak in a few Tech trax within their sets nowadays... more than in the past. PvD, Tiesto, Corsten,.. to name a few. Alot more Techno tends to get "funky" and have a sexy rhythm...which may be why there's more girls in a Tech room, party than @ a trance one. IMO
Stassi
Trance didn't always sound epic.
It didn't always sound Generic either.
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