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ASOT 200 - What Do You Want To Hear? (pg. 3)
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by IDarkISwordI
Most of the time, what he plays trickles down into the hands of 90% of the trance DJs around today. *shkes head in daze over the lack of respect*\ |
That is not always a good thing. I know I'm being cynical but honestly Armin isn't even close to being the be all and end all of trance. |
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| IDarkISwordI |
I can say you have definantly been a member much longer than I have but I have been listening to edm most of my life. Between my parents listening to most electronic/synth 80s music and my dad composing edm, I've pretty much always been a fan of it. What I see mostly on these forums though, is people bashing modern trance and most other modern forms of edm. This wasnt something specific to you UWM. This goes for much of this community here on TA. The point of my inqurie on this thread was what people thought would make for a good show on ASOT 200 with a tracklsit made of songs over the past 4-5 years. What was posted was mostly bashing of the show and some bashing of modern trance music. Now if it were only bashing of modern trance, I could let it slide and while no Armin is not the end-all-be-all of trance DJs, he is however a very important figure that we should all respect, regardless of tastes. If you love edm, you should atleast be able to offer him the respect he deserves as being one of the top 10 DJs in the world.
I just cant believe how much people on this forum bash trance music. Come on people, if you dont like it, then dont bother posting anything about the genre. This community is geared toward those who enjoy listening to trance and edm in general, not for saying 'trance sucks, its all the same ' or 'i wish armin van buuren would have a heart attack' and stupid liek that. Thats the kind of many of the composers and clubbers have to put up with from the mainstream public who listen to radio . If you want to be like them, then please, dont post comments that bash the genre many of us love and live for.
Cheers,
Zac |
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| Chicago29 |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
What a happy day that would be. |
It would be the saddest day of my life....well, it would be up there. Wow, I would've thought you would've said someone like Richard Marks or Michael Bolton or Jennifer Lopez. Didn't think anyone on here could dislike AvB so much. Oh well, your loss.
Can't wait for ASOT 200!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And GDJB directly before! |
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| djmetatron |
| quote: | Originally posted by IDarkISwordI
I can say you have definantly been a member much longer than I have but I have been listening to edm most of my life. Between my parents listening to most electronic/synth 80s music and my dad composing edm, I've pretty much always been a fan of it. What I see mostly on these forums though, is people bashing modern trance and most other modern forms of edm. This wasnt something specific to you UWM. This goes for much of this community here on TA. The point of my inqurie on this thread was what people thought would make for a good show on ASOT 200 with a tracklsit made of songs over the past 4-5 years. What was posted was mostly bashing of the show and some bashing of modern trance music. Now if it were only bashing of modern trance, I could let it slide and while no Armin is not the end-all-be-all of trance DJs, he is however a very important figure that we should all respect, regardless of tastes. If you love edm, you should atleast be able to offer him the respect he deserves as being one of the top 10 DJs in the world.
I just cant believe how much people on this forum bash trance music. Come on people, if you dont like it, then dont bother posting anything about the genre. This community is geared toward those who enjoy listening to trance and edm in general, not for saying 'trance sucks, its all the same ' or 'i wish armin van buuren would have a heart attack' and stupid liek that. Thats the kind of many of the composers and clubbers have to put up with from the mainstream public who listen to radio . If you want to be like them, then please, dont post comments that bash the genre many of us love and live for.
Cheers,
Zac |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by IDarkISwordI
I just cant believe how much people on this forum bash trance music. Come on people, if you dont like it, then dont bother posting anything about the genre. This community is geared toward those who enjoy listening to trance and edm in general, not for saying 'trance sucks, its all the same ' or 'i wish armin van buuren would have a heart attack' and stupid liek that. Thats the kind of many of the composers and clubbers have to put up with from the mainstream public who listen to radio . If you want to be like them, then please, dont post comments that bash the genre many of us love and live for.
Cheers,
Zac |
There seems to be a misconception there with 'bashing trance music' and bashing armin etc. Just because we think Armin has gone to does not mean we're bashing trance music in general. The whole point is that trance has gone too serious, the fun has gone from it, and we're left with dull lifeless tunes on the whole. Fortunately there are still some gems out there, but it's so much harder to sift through the rubbish to find them. Also if you notice that most of those who bash armin have been here a long time. We've seen how good he can be, and how poor he's become, and as someone who claims to have listened to edm for ages, can you not appreciate that a lot of us believe that the earlier works were the best, there's just no comparison in quality between serenity/shivers and aria - dido or alibi - eternity. Not in a million years. |
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| gizzymcg |
ASOT has went more commerical but that cums with a rise in poulairity. It shouldnt b a bad thing that more people listen 2 it than every before. But its still the biggest guage of big tunes coming out in the next couple of months compared 2 other shows. Its not like he is doing a Judge Jules ffs.
In addition i saw Armin live ladt Sat and he was brilliant as per usual. There wasa couple of tunes i didnt like (Serentiy n Shivers) but they got the crowd going. The rest was wot he does best. |
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| IDarkISwordI |
Hey. I highly disagree with you Ian. You make a good point but personally, I think the issue is that the sound has changed from what you like and enjoy, not that it has become lifeless and dull, but it has just progressed into a different genre. I think Armins style has changed rather than gone to . I really think there is something other than trance music now being commercial, lifeless and dull, because I as well as a lot of other people believe that modern trance music is very good. Honestly, I enjoy older tunes just as much as I enjoy newer ones but I also think newer tunes have become softer, sometimes more melodic and less harsh than its older siblings of the past. Its not a difference of good and bad, its a difference of styles.
Cheers,
Zac |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by IDarkISwordI
Hey. I highly disagree with you Ian. You make a good point but personally, I think the issue is that the sound has changed from what you like and enjoy, not that it has become lifeless and dull, but it has just progressed into a different genre. I think Armins style has changed rather than gone to . I really think there is something other than trance music now being commercial, lifeless and dull, because I as well as a lot of other people believe that modern trance music is very good. Honestly, I enjoy older tunes just as much as I enjoy newer ones but I also think newer tunes have become softer, sometimes more melodic and less harsh than its older siblings of the past. Its not a difference of good and bad, its a difference of styles.
Cheers,
Zac |
Would you please name some amazing tracks that Armin has been playing & producing the past year? Instead of using generalizations. |
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| IDarkISwordI |
| Hey. Check the first page ;). |
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| sandstorm03 |
So what you are telling me is that all thoes tracks that 90% of them sound exactly the same from 2004 and 2005 are good? Are any of them better then the tracks that you listed pre-2002? Honestly I think I could have came up with at least a better list of the 2005 tracks.
| quote: | --2005--
A Force ft. Yahel - Behind Silence
Above & Beyond ft. Andy Moor - Air For Life
Adam White ft. Martin Grech - Ballerina (Original Mix)
Andy Moor - Halcyon
Asle pres. Frost - Wait For Me (Max Graham Sidechain Remix)
Audioholics - External Key (Perry O'Neil Remix)
Audioplacid ft. Elle - Tell Me Why
Ava Mea - In The End (Original Mix)
Benz and Md - Unconditional (Original Mix)
Benz and Md - Mar Del Plata (Dousk Remix)
Blank and Jones ft. Bobo - Perfect Silence (E-Craig's 212 Mix)
Callisto pres. Cressida - Certainty
Callisto pres. Cressida - Carillon
Cupa - Mass Panic (Concept Mix)
Dave 202 - Global Trance (Jesselyn Remix)
Deep Dish - Say Hello (Club Mix)
Deepwide - Canyon (Original Mix)
D:Fuse - Living The Dream (Matthew Dekay Dub Mix)
Digital Blues - Digital Blues
Digital Blues - Definition
DJ Tatana - ft. Pee - All That I Feel (DJ Tatana Sirup Mix)
DJ Vesiga vs Jomar - Nightoperator (Club Mix)
E-Craig - Call It A Day (212 AM Mix)
Emery & Kirsch - Lose Yourself (Gareth Emery Remix) or (Will Holland Remix)
Emotional State - Within A Dream
Emotional State - Shards Of Light
Ernesto vs Bastian - Dark Side Of The Moon (Dogzilla Pure Filth Remix) or (Original Mix)
Estuera - Chapter Two
Estuera - Red Shores
Evolve - Safe To Dream (Thrillseekers Remix)
Ferry Corsten - Holding On (A&B Mix)
Filo & Peri ft. Fisher - Closer Now (Original Mix)
Filo & Peri pres. Taxi - Distance (Original Mix)
Firewall - Sincere (Puler Mix) or (Lange Mix)
Hydroid - Burn Proof
Hydroid - Drawn To Depth
Interstate - I Found U (Original Mix)
Jonas Steur - Castamara
Jonas Steur - Silent Waves
Jose Amnesia vs. Serp - Second Day (Original Mix) or (Martin Roth Remix)
Kenney Hayes - Daybreaker (Signum Remix)
M.I.K.E. - Massive Motion
Max Graham - Automatic Weapon
Motocycle - Around You (Original Mix)
Nu Frequency - 808 (Instrumental Mix)
Perasma - Swing 2 Harmony (Deserves An Effort Polyphony Vocal Mix)
Pulser - Square One (Thrillseekers Remix)
Ridgewalkers ft. El - Find (Andy Moor Remix)
Synergy - Hello Strings (Flash Brothers Remix) or (Original Mix)
The Thrillseekers pres. Hydra - Ultimate Affinity (Menno de Jong Remix)
Way Out West - Dont Forget Me (Dustbiter Mix) or ((Way Out Wests Clifton High Mix)
Whiteroom - Someday (Vocal Mix)
Will Holland pres. Holla - Melodica
Yilmaz Altanhan - Eighties (Original Mix)
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| quote: | --1999--
Paul van Dyk - Another Way (Club Mix)
Bedrock - Evolution (Main Mix)
--2000--
BT - Dreaming (Libra Mix)
U2 - New Years Dub 2000 (Ferry Corsten Less Vocal Extended Dub)
York - On The Beach
--2001--
Accadia - Into The Dawn (James Holden Remix) or (Accadia Club Mix)
Delerium ft. Leigh Nash - Innocente (DJ Tiesto Remix) or (MR SAM's The Space Between Us Remix)
Tiesto - Urban Train (Wippenberg Remix)
Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix) or (Tilts Going Home Mix)
--2002--
Aurora - The Day It Rained Forever (Monoboy Vocal Mix)
Chicane - Saltwater (Original Mix)
Nu NRG - Dreamland (Rank1 Re-edit)
Paul Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Gabriel and Dresden Unplugged Mix) |
Soooo which one is it? |
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| IDarkISwordI |
Hey. I welcome you to do so. That was the point of the thread :). Oddly enough, those tracks that '90% sound the same' became big sellers. Interesting how they made a lot of money composing 'the exact same sounding' stuff. Thanks for disregarding my previous post btw ;).
Cheers,
Zac |
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| flavdave |
| I just checked out the TL so far for ASOT 200. I don't see how playing the same tracks he has caned in every set last year is considered special. |
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