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| Marcus007 |
I truly must share this story with you guys. Words cannot even begin to describe how ed up the States is becoming.
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BARBARISM IN TEXAS....This story is almost too horrible for words. The details are a little thin, but here's the outline.
In 2003, Texas passed an anti-abortion law that instituted a 24-hour waiting period; required doctors to show women pictures of fetuses, tell them about adoption procedures, and warn them that an abortion could lead to breast cancer; and forced abortion providers to keep the identities of all their patients in their records. Plus one more thing, as the Fort Worth Weekly reported at the time:
The bill as passed also includes another requirement that managed to escape the floodlights of controversy and debate: Abortions from 16 weeks onward now can be performed only in hospitals and ambulatory surgical centers.
The clause is a major Catch-22. Very few Texas hospitals perform elective abortions, and the few that do charge extremely high fees and require that the patients go through complicated ethics reviews. And of the state's hundreds of surgical centers, none performs abortions.
So, with no place to get an abortion after 16 weeks, what does a panicky, 17-year-old girl do if she's four months pregnant? Erica Basoria decided to try to induce a miscarriage. When that didn't work, she asked her boyfriend to step on her stomach. A week later she miscarried.
This is all bad enough, but what comes next is fantastically worse: Texas also has a shiny new law criminalizing "fetal murder," and the fact that Basoria wanted a miscarriage in this case doesn't matter. Her boyfriend, Gerardo Flores of Lufkin, has been sentenced to 40 years in prison for his part in this tragic comic opera:
Flores' mother, Norma Flores, stood in stunned silence, surrounded by family members for several minutes after her son was led away by Sheriff Kent Henson.
Under state law, a woman cannot be charged for causing the deaths of her own fetuses for any reason.
....[Prosecutor Art] Bauereiss told jurors he was focused on Flores. He couldn't help that Basoria was outside the reach of the law, he said. If the babies had been killed after being born, it wouldn't have been so controversial, he said. "Think what a horrible crime this would be,” he said. "We wouldn't hesitate to label it for what it is."
....Prosecutors chose not to pursue the death penalty against Flores, meaning he received an automatic life sentence with parole possible after 40 years.
This is the intersection of stupid kids, stupid laws, mendacious legislators, and fanatical prosecutors. It's what happens when states ban access to otherwise legal abortions and kids don't know where to turn. And if circumstances and the law had been slightly different, Bauereiss probably would have prosecuted Erica Basoria too and sought the death penalty for both.
It's like living under the Ayatollahs in Iran. It's simple barbarism. |
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| ShadoWolf |
The only act of barbarism in that story was the murder itself, NOT the punishment for the murder.
He killed a baby (it was NOT in the first trimester) and went to jail for it...
...yet child-killer/rapist Karla Homolka is almost free and will live in Montreal.
Which is worse?
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| ShadoWolf |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050608...TFjBHNlYwN0cw--
Man With Chain Saw Allowed to Enter U.S.
By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writer 14 minutes ago
On April 25, Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood. U.S. customs agents confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres. Then they let him into the United States.
The following day, a gruesome scene was discovered in Despres' hometown of Minto, New Brunswick: The decapitated body of a 74-year-old country musician named Frederick Fulton was found on Fulton's kitchen floor. His head was in a pillowcase under a kitchen table. His common-law wife was discovered stabbed to death in a bedroom.
Despres, 22, immediately became a suspect because of a history of violence between him and his neighbors, and he was arrested April 27 after police in Massachusetts saw him wandering down a highway in a sweat shirt with red and brown stains. He is now in jail in Massachusetts on murder charges, awaiting an extradition hearing next month.
At a time when the United States is tightening its borders, how could a man toting what appeared to be a bloody chain saw be allowed into the country?
Bill Anthony, a spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said the Canada-born Despres could not be detained because he is a naturalized U.S. citizen and was not wanted on any criminal charges on the day in question.
Anthony said Despres was questioned for two hours before he was released. During that time, he said, customs agents employed "every conceivable method" to check for warrants or see if Despres had broken any laws in trying to re-enter the country.
"Nobody asked us to detain him," Anthony said. "Being bizarre is not a reason to keep somebody out of this country or lock them up. ... We are governed by laws and regulations, and he did not violate any regulations."
Anthony conceded it "sounds stupid" that a man wielding what appeared to be a bloody chain saw could not be detained. But he added: "Our people don't have a crime lab up there. They can't look at a chain saw and decide if it's blood or rust or red paint."
Sgt. Gary Cameron of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police would not comment on whether it was, in fact, blood on the chain saw.
On the same day Despres crossed the border, he was due in a Canadian court to be sentenced on charges he assaulted and threatened to kill Fulton's son-in-law, Frederick Mowat, last August.
Mowat told police Despres had been bothering his father-in-law for the past month. When Mowat confronted him, Despres allegedly pulled a knife, pointed it at Mowat's chest and said he was "going to get you all."
Police believe the dispute between the neighbors boiled over in the early-morning hours of April 24, when Despres allegedly broke into Fulton's home and stabbed to death the musician and 70-year-old Veronica Decarie.
Fulton's daughter found her father's body two days later. His car was later found in a gravel pit on a highway leading to the U.S. border. Despres hitchhiked to the border crossing.
After the bodies were found on the afternoon of April 26, police set up roadblocks and sent out a bulletin that identified Despres as a "person of interest" in the slayings, according to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
The bulletin caught the eye of a Quincy police dispatcher because it gave the suspect's Massachusetts driver's license number, missing a character. The dispatcher plugged in numbers and letters until she found a last known address for Despres in Mattapoisett. She alerted police in that town, and an officer quickly spotted Despres.
In state court the next day, Despres told a judge that he is affiliated with NASA and was on his way to a Marine Corps base in Kansas at the time of his arrest.
After the case was transferred to federal court, Despres' attorney, Michael Andrews, questioned whether his client is mentally competent.
Fulton's friends in Minto, a village of 2,700 people, told the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal that he was a popular musician, a guitarist known as the "Chet Atkins of Minto" and a 2001 inductee in the Minto Country Music Wall of Fame. |
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| Marcus007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
The only act of barbarism in that story was the murder itself, NOT the punishment for the murder.
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Please don't tell me you're one of those pro-life supporters...
(edit: 40 YEARS!!! 40 YEARS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET AN ABORTION!!! This is not a punishment the kid should have to serve, this should have been a lesson to the state of texas on what happens when they make getting abortions so difficult for desperate girls. You think they didn't try to get an abortion first???)
| quote: | | He killed a baby (it was NOT in the first trimester) and went to jail for it... |
It was in it's second, big woop! Nevertheless, this point is moot. It was not a baby, a baby is something that is born, this was a fetus.
| quote: | | ...yet child-killer/rapist Karla Homolka is almost free and will live in Montreal. |
Homolka never killed a child, actually, she never killed anyone. It was Paul Bernando who did the killing...
Oh and about that crazy ****** in the picture; he looks like a fkn nutbag. It scares me. :nervous: :nervous: He also claims to work for NASA... |
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| JinX_33 |
Marcus, that article is unbelievable. Pro-life or not (and i am not... wait a second... which is which? lol. all i know is that i'm ok with abortions), it is a violation of one's rights. I'm furious right now. I could never, ever live in the Southern USA. That country is in the process of destroying itself, and without a doubt, will eventually bring good ol' Canada with them.
those mother******s. *shakes her head* |
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| Tag |
| I'm anti life....the fewer babies born the better, the world is way over populated right now. Hope to god I nvr find myself in texas. Colorado is pretty awfull, evangelical christians the world would be better without them.:wtf: |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
TEXAS!!! |
QUEBEC!!
:D :D
Seriously, they are probably the two most different jurisdictions in North America.
http://www.thesouth.com/ |
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| Marcus007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
QUEBEC!
:D :D
Seriously, they are probably the two most different jurisdictions in North America.
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Shush you pro-life pos.
(edit: btw, pos= piece of ...) |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
Shush you pro-life pos.
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I didn't say I was...
..but stomping on your gf's stomach is rediculous!! :whip: |
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| Marcus007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I didn't say I was...
..but stomping on your gf's stomach is rediculous!! :whip: |
They had no other way to attain an abortion. Trust me, I'm sure they tried a lot of other things before resorting to that. :/ |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
They had no other way to attain an abortion. Trust me, I'm sure they tried a lot of other things before resorting to that. :/ |
They could have had an abortion at a reputable institution:
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/p...o=home&state=TX
No, instead they chose to STOMP the kid to death (the real barbarism in this story)... which by the way could have harmed the woman..
yet you're surprised that they were punished for it? :rolleyes:
| quote: | | Planned Parenthood of North Texas offers abortion procedures at two locations. One is located in Dallas and the other is in Fort Worth. We do terminations up to 13.6 weeks, which is the first trimester of pregnancy. The cost ranges from $315-$360 (surgical). We also offer medical (non-surgical) abortion, which costs $405. To make an appointment call: |
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