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Review: Johan Gielen @ Republik (pg. 7)
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| k la |
| quote: | Originally posted by Waltr
Generally I make it a rule not to respond to this type of comment but Kla... where did you come from??? Or better... what club??? EV is low end compared most brands and theatres use product such as Meyers, VDOS and only the price conscious theater will use EV, JBL or EAW. EV and JBL is good sound but not close to the quality or volume capability of EAW and Dynacord. |
Last I heard we were talking about club speakers, not theatres? So how does this come into play with sound at Republik.
EV is low end... uh huh! So this is why dj after dj raves about any club with a Telex Communications package. I say this, as all the monitors in a Dynacord set up are EV. I find it amusing that world class djs (Danny Tanaglia) have said that for the first time in their life they could hear the difference between cd and records in a club... only when on an alpha concept system. Now, an alpha concept system is half EV and half Dynacord. For example, the 15" woofers in a alpha concept system are EV, the amps uses are the EV P-RL series remote-control amps with DSP and IRIS control software, and of course all the monitors are EV. So what gives here??? As all these big djs talk about the superior sound, yet EV makes crappy, money consious speakers! I suppose Danny T doesnt really know what hes talking about, but for some reason I dont think thats the case.
Next, you need to make up your mind, is EAW good or bad. In one sentace you rant and rave about the system at Republik, which is EAW, but in another you say only the money consious will use EAW... so which one is it?
You knock JBL, funny as much of the Guv is JBL. JBL is a part of the phazon package. I guess the Guv is money consious?! LOL
You talk about volume capability... oh I get it now, this is where the real problem arises. I think we all have a DIFFERENCE in views as per what good sound is. SPL is WAY over-rated. Kind of like those guys that install the most SPL crazy subs in their car, sure it pushes mad amounts of air, but it lacks definition and clarity. When you listen to a Dynacord system, one is usually most impressed with the incredible clarity of the music, how you can feel the bass, but also hear its punch. At Republik the bass was muffled, once again, yes, it moved air and you could feel it vibrate, but Im not in to that grade 10 pimped out car sub sound. I much prefer hearing every note of the music as it was meant to be heard. I guess its like judging a speaker by its watts, many go one about how many watts a speaker is, but a good speaker is going to be lower watts as the engineers know how to utilize energy instead of waste it through low end coils.
I find it funny that people can knock EV, especially seeing as they hold many of the patents for loud speakers!
1) The invented Manifold technology --- Manifold Technology allows the combining of the outputs of multiple drivers into a single horn or low-frequency enclosure without destructive interference. The result is a physical package that is a fraction of the size with much greater acoustic output capability.
2)Ring-Mode Decoupling (RMDTM) --- Ring-Mode Decoupling (RMDTM), a revolutionary approach to minimizing acoustical and mechanical resonances in loudspeakers. Speaker systems with RMD have improved clarity and resolution, especially in the vocal range.
3)Constant-directivity (CD) horns --- Constant-directivity (CD) horns, which allow a loudspeaker to maintain its coverage angles over a wide frequency range with more uniform sound quality.
Oh and lets not forget EV has also won an acadamy award for its role in enhancing sound for movies... funny to your previous comment eh!
Lastly, in regards to Alpha concept systems, they are the ONLY complete package system designed SOLEY for dance music... naturally Id imagine its going to have an edge on the competition!
Schooled, I dont think so... Working for another club, lol, no... Im just a sound junkie. The first thing I do when I go to any club is check out the speakers. If im not framiliar with the model I will often check out the pdf on its stats the second I get home. I love quality sound, that is all. I wonder how many of you claiming I must work for another club, work for Republik... oh the irony!!! |
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| TheVrk |
| Another show i had 2 miss |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by k la
Im just a sound junkie. The first thing I do when I go to any club is check out the speakers. If im not framiliar with the model I will often check out the pdf on its stats the second I get home. I love quality sound, that is all. |
I respect sound junkies!!! Do IMAX theatres have better sound than night clubs? |
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| Waltr |
K la... you brought up the theater comparison and for the record Dynacord and EV manifold boxes are two different products even if they come from Telex. Don't put them in the same class... Were talking about two different level of audio here... JBL, EAW, DYNACORD are boxes associated with good club installations and if your if you want to take the next step up you go to Meyers or VDOS products that are arena sound or theater sound that delivers high fi quality at a much higher price. Remember that the price conscious is in reference to a theater installation and not a club and don't take it out of context. You are talking about manifold boxes from EV that are about the same quality as cerwin vega and sound dirty. Either its Dynacord or manifold but don't us the two in the same sentence. Who knocked JBL... every system has its issues good and bad and for the record I own a JBL rig and an EAW rig and a Meyers rig... and I have played on four separate Dyancord systems from Toronto to Montreal... and yes I can also cutnpaste specs... and many companies hold patents... I personally don't mind EV manifold product like MTL 4 for subs but there is much better on the market and the technology is dated. That's why Dynacord is in the forefront for that company... and why we decided to go with a custom audio system at republik with EAW components as a base...
Not sure about the IMAX theater... different application.
yawn... Enough of this if you want to continue this discussion PM me. |
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| halo20 |
| p.s the tech in the thread is awesome. |
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| techead |
MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DICK
MY DOG IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DOG
MY DAD IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DAD
MY SOUND SYSTEM IS BETTER THAN YOURS.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
for god's sake lets let this thread die
Walter is happy with his EAW , I am Happy with my Dynacord , so is system and Boa
Guv is happy with thier Phazon
and life goes on |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by halo20
p.s the tech in the thread is awesome. |
Exactly!!! SHARE this awesome technical info, I say! (yeah I know, I'm too lazy to look it up :()
P.S. Walter Rosati, you're awesome...:D |
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| Tygon |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
P.S. Walter Rosati, you're awesome...:D |
Oh Fayraree get up off your knees... :stongue: :crazy:
I gotta say Sunday was my first night at Republik! All I can say... is WOW... the hype is true. That club is done up to perfection. I've never seen a club that paid so much attention to detail. Except for the positioning of the DJ booth and the huge support pillar in the middle of the dance floor, this place exceeded my expectations.
I got there around midnight to hear Dennis play... WOW MAN... solid... very very solid. I dunno if it was the athmosphere or the great sound system (regardless of the brand name :p), but I have to say it was one of his best sets to date. Arcadia was played RIGHT ON TIME -- Track of the night IMO. Keep up the great work man... a perfect set to open for one of the worlds best trance DJs.
Johan came on and blew the roof off with some solid Tech-Trance and Epic trance... I mean, CUBIKATED?!?! Unreal! Unfortunately, I was only able to stay for about an hour of his set... and I had to DRAG myself outta there... but from what I heard, I'll be sure to see Johan again.
What can I say... I had my doubts about this event on a Sunday night... but Walter and the TR crew did it RIGHT! BLEW ME AWAY! Full respect for what you guys are trying to do there... ;)
Cheers! |
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| zoogla |
| ...speaking of Nat's pics from Pride weekend, how about the Gielen pics?! I'm so excited for these!!!!! :D |
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| tatgirl |
| PICS ARE FINALLY ONLINE! |
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| amb_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by tatgirl
PICS ARE FINALLY ONLINE! |
Sweet photos, Nat!
Yohan Julian? |
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| tatgirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by amb_
Sweet photos, Nat!
Yohan Julian? |
I know, I told him to fix it. |
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