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bass.exe
I am giving a talk this week about music and the internet. I will try to argue the point that the internet has had a beneficial effect on music and the industry. I would appreciate alot of input on your views abou this topic and arguments that I could potentially use in my presentation.. also if you know of any links for information, statistics on the music industry, articles related to this, I would appreciate your help very much. :)

Cheers.
sandstorm03
http://www.azoz.com/music/features/0008.html


http://www.preoccupations.org/preoccupations/2004/05/riaa_statistics.html


http://www.ifpi.org/site-content/press/20050322.html


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Global sales of recorded music were flat in 2004, with a slight reduction in physical audio sales offset by growing sales of DVD music videos and a sharp increase in sales of digital music. Regionally, 2004 saw strong markets in the US and UK and a slowing rate of decline in other major markets.

Sales of physical formats declined by 1.3% in value (and by 0.4% in units) to US$33.6 billion. (The growth calculation is net of exchange rate fluctuations, comparing with US$34.1 billion in 2004). But with sales of music downloads via the internet and mobile phones making their first mark on the global market in 2004, total global sales are estimated to be flat in comparison to the previous year.

Even excluding digital sales, 2004 was the best year-on-year trend in global music sales for five years. Sales of top-selling albums reversed several years of decline. Top 10 albums sales globally rose by 14%, while the top 50 albums were up 8% in value. Eight albums sold more than five million in 2004, up from five in 2003.

Digital sales rose exponentially, with the total number of tracks downloaded in 2004 (including album tracks) up more than tenfold on 2003, to over 200 million in the four major digital music markets (US, UK, France, Germany). The trend has continued in 2005, with digital sales in the US in the first two months more than double that of the same period in 2004.

However, the picture globally is very mixed, with online and physical piracy continuing to depress sales in major markets, particularly in Continental Europe and parts of Asia.

IFPI Chairman and CEO John Kennedy said: "There are now good signs that the pattern of falling sales is behind us, but there is still a long way to go to get satisfactory rates of market growth. On the positive side, digital sales are booming, helping the overall market to its best year-on-year performance in five years, and this growth is set to continue strongly in the coming year. This is testimony to the tremendous progress of the legitimate digital music sector in the last 12 months, as well as to our decisive enforcement actions against illegal file-sharing.

“However, the global music market currently presents an extremely mixed picture. Commercial piracy and illegal file-sharing are continuing to depress our markets, particularly in Continental Europe and Asia. The priority in the coming year is to step up the advance of legitimate digital sales, sustain our anti-piracy efforts and reverse the declines that we are continuing to see in all but a small handful of major markets".

Highlights of the 2004 world sales:

Digital sales, more stability in physical sales and growing DVD music video sales helped keep the music market flat in 2004


Economic strength and strong releases helped CD volume growth of 2.8% and 4.5% in the US and UK, which together make up 47% of the value of the world market


Eight albums sold more than 5 million in 2004, up from five in 2003: they were: Confessions, Usher; Feels Like Home, Norah Jones; Encore, Eminem; How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb, U2; Under My Skin, Avril Lavigne; Greatest Hits, Robbie Williams; Greatest Hits, Shania Twain; Destiny Fulfilled, Destiny’s Child


Strong domestically-signed artists helped the UK in particular, where four of the top five albums sold were also debuts


Slowing declines in large markets that have been hit hard by internet piracy and competition for discretionary consumer spending in recent years - notably Germany, Canada and Japan - had a significant impact. Germany (down 4.2%) and Japan (down 1.8%) saw the smallest year-on-year declines for four and three years respectively. Germany was also aided by a strong DVD market worth almost $200m, now 9% of music sales there


Music sales in Latin America grew 12.6% in value due to economic recovery, anti-piracy efforts and strong DVD music video sales – but piracy across the continent remains a huge problem at a level of more than 50% in every market


Music DVD sales rose 23% and have doubled their share of the world music market from 4% in 2002 to 8% in 2004 - with a value of US$2.6 billion dollars


CD sales increased in 36 markets in volume terms in 2004, with positive performances in some major markets but also a growing switch from cassette to CDs in developing markets in Eastern Europe, Asia and the Middle East


Certain markets in Continental Europe and Asia - notably Sweden, Finland, France, Spain and South Korea - have been drastically hit by internet piracy. The Continental European market, which accounts for over a third of the world market, fared significantly worse than other regions, falling 5.4%
Notes

All figures and trends presented in this report refer to total physical music sales (unless stated), i.e. combined audio formats (singles, LPs, cassettes, CDs, DVD Audio, SACD, MiniDisc) and music video formats (DVD, VHS, VCD). DVD figures for Asia include VCD.

Regional and world growths are based on fixed $US using 2004 IMF average annual exchange rates. These calculations exclude the following countries:

Zimbabwe – no 2003 figures submitted
Iceland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia – no 2004 figures submitted
Total units are calculated as the total album equivalent in each market (3 singles = 1 album). Other audio formats, including DVD Audio, SACD and MiniDisc are included in the totals and growths for each country.

‘Neg’ indicate sales under one thousand units.

For further information please contact: Adrian Strain, Julie Harari or Fiona Harley
IFPI Communications on tel: +44 (0)20 7878 7900



I think its a load of BS that the Internet hurts sales. I think the RIAA are just cranky and looking for money...
basd
quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
I think its a load of BS that the Internet hurts sales. I think the RIAA are just cranky and looking for money...

I think it definitely affects the sales of mainstream music CDs. It's so easy to get them off the Internet, many people just can't be arsed anymore to actually get a CD from, let's say, U2 or Britney, from the stores. They just download it instead.

For lesser known music, the effects are more positive I think, as the Internet provides a good way of getting to know artists you would have never heard of otherwise.
sandstorm03
quote:
Originally posted by basd
I think it definitely affects the sales of mainstream music CDs. It's so easy to get them off the Internet, many people just can't be arsed anymore to actually get a CD from, let's say, U2 or Britney, from the stores. They just download it instead.

For lesser known music, the effects are more positive I think, as the Internet provides a good way of getting to know artists you would have never heard of otherwise.


I remember that 50 Cents album sold more coppies then any cd ever, or something like that :conf: (could have been for first week of sales or what not)

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4831

Internet music piracy is not responsible for declining CD sales, claim the researchers behind a major new statistical study.

Felix Oberholzer-Gee at Harvard Business School in Massachusetts and Koleman Strumpf at the University of North Carolina tracked millions of music files downloaded through the OpenNap file-trading network and compared them with CD sales of the same music.

The music industry frequently claims that illegal file-trading is responsible for reducing legitimate music sales. The industry says this argument is the reason for their legal campaign of suing individual file traders over the past year.

However, the researchers conclude: "At most, file sharing can explain a tiny fraction of this decline."

Automatic monitoring
Oberholzer-Gee and Strumpf monitored 680 albums, chosen from a range of musical genres, downloaded over 17 weeks in the second half of 2002. They used computer programs to automatically monitor downloads and compared this data to changes in album sales over the same period to see if a link could be established.

The most heavily downloaded songs showed no decrease in CD sales as a result of increasing downloads. In fact, albums that sold more than 600,000 copies during this period appeared to sell better when downloaded more heavily.

For these albums each increase of 150 downloads corresponded to another legitimate album sale. The study showed only a slight decline in sales as a result of online trading for the least popular music.

"From a statistical point of view, what this means is that there is no effect between downloading and sales," say Oberholzer-Gee and Strumpf.

Adverse impact
The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), which represents the world's largest record companies, point to a number of studies suggesting a between declining record sales and the growth of illegal file-trading.

For example, a series of surveys conducted by Houston-based company Voter Consumer Research have indicated that those who download more songs illegally are less likely to buy music from legitimate retailers.

"Countless well respected groups and analysts have all determined that illegal file sharing has adversely impacted the sales of CDs," says RIAA spokeswoman Amy Weiss.

But at least one other survey has already suggested precisely the opposite. And the new UNC study differs from previous work in its focus on individual album sales and its large scale. During the data gathering stage, the researchers tracked a total of 1.75 million downloads, or 10 per minute on average.

Dramatic tactic
The RIAA has led recent efforts to crack down on illegal online music trading. The association's most dramatic tactic has been to track down hundreds of individual file sharers and sue them for copyright infringement.

The approach was adopted after a US court ruled that the companies providing file-trading networks could not be held responsible for the actions of their users.

Opponents of these legal tactics, including some consumer groups, musicians and academics, have accused music industry of failing recognise the potential of file-trading as a legitimate music distribution method.

In their paper, Oberholzer-Gee and Strumpf suggest that falling record sales may be partly explained by a weak US economy as well as increasing CD prices.
sandstorm03
http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/06/0809.cfm
Coldplay May Break Sales Records, Album Artwork Explained
Wednesday June 08, 2005 @ 04:00 PM
By: ChartAttack.com Staff


Coldplay's new album X&Y is on its way to breaking the record for the highest first-week sales in the U.K. this millennium.

The album sold more than 150,000 copies on its first day. The BBC reports that if this trend continues, up to 500,000 copies of X&Y may be sold by the end of the week. HMV spokesperson Gennaro Castaldo said Coldplay have the possibility of exceeding the all-time record set by Oasis when they sold almost 700,000 copies of Be Here Now during its first week of release in 1997.

"It's no surprise that Coldplay sold so many albums — as much as the rest of the top 20 combined," Castaldo said. "We haven't seen anything like this since Be Here Now. It’s fair to say that we're already looking at the biggest album of the year by far."


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Coldplay's new album debuts at No. 1
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 Posted: 2:44 PM EDT (1844 GMT)


LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- British band Coldplay shot to the top of the pop-music charts Wednesday as its latest album, "X&Y," logged first-week U.S. sales of more than 737,000 copies and also hit No. 1 in 21 other countries.


LOL, its just crap imo...
AlphaStarred
quote:
Originally posted by basd
For lesser known music, the effects are more positive I think, as the Internet provides a good way of getting to know artists you would have never heard of otherwise.


Right on the money.
CosmoKid
the problem with Music and Music Sales isnt the internet. Its the formulatic garbage that the record companies feel they need to put in front of us. Period.

If record companies want to increase sales, put out a better product.

No matter how easy it is to download music, if I like the artist, I buy his album.
basd
quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
I remember that 50 Cents album sold more coppies then any cd ever, or something like that :conf: (could have been for first week of sales or what not)

loads of text..


Valid point there. They've done research on it, I haven't :)
sandstorm03
quote:
Originally posted by basd
Valid point there. They've done research on it, I haven't :)


I mean the RIAA are full of crap. Like they may say that sales are down 10% the past 3 years or what not.

I wonder why???




bass.exe
Thanks for all the info Sandstorm!!! this is ing great stuff. :happy2:

sandstorm03
quote:
Originally posted by bass.exe
Thanks for all the info Sandstorm!!! this is ing great stuff. :happy2:


google is your friend :D
dj tek
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* Rumours - Fleetwood Mac (Warner Bros.)
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