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The Controlled Demolition Of The WTC - Conspiracy Vid (pg. 5)
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Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by Iyrlk
alert: long passage
short summary at end

it is very true that governments have their share of what it wants the people to know, and considering the common stupidity and ignorance that US citizens are so well endowed with, grounds for speculations are not empty. however, doubt fuels imagination, resulting in an impetus for speculation. in this twenty-first century, the scientific level we stand on holds barrier (arguably very effective) to any catastrophic events such as the 9/11. analysis of course followed the event and considering the mere number of speculators of 9/11 tragedy is (i believe) an undoubtable proof that US government/whoever you ppl want to believe are conspirators will not have had additional "explosives" to destroy the renowned buildings. the level of manipulation, which coherent minds would agree on, that bush can have towards this whole matter is probably psychological and economical. furthermore, bush is way too impotent a mind of notable significance as a strategist. (in short, he's a dumb whose brain equals in inaptitude his speeches and logic, not to mention common sense)

in conclusion, this is merely another hoax; an illogical ignorance overplayed by some US citizens who wasted their pointless time trying to dramatize. and mind you, (warning opinion) bush is on its way to destroying the world for his own goods, and as soon as he uses North Korea as a scapegoat, this world is gonna fall into a hell of a mess (/warning opinion)




for those who want short summary

bush is an idiot, and believers of conspiracy are well on his way.


If you want to try and discredit it, please don't use the "Bush isn't smart enough to have planned this" because in all reality, he wasn't even smart enough to have become president. He had many strings pulled (needless to say) to get to his current position of power.

Bush is surrounded on all sides by groups of hard-line ideologues (mainly neoconservatives) who have the power and the connections to manipulate him and anyone else that they may wish to coerce towards accomplishing their own ends.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...merican_Century

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...=a090603meacher
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by Furel
I read through the entire topic, saw most of those stupid videos you tarts posted and it just cracked me up when I saw Trancer-X's post. As if he knows it all. You don't need to act all gay and bitch because I thought Trancer-X's post was stupid. As you said:


Who said that I know it all? On the contrary, I'm still putting the pieces together while working on just a small portion of the puzzle.

It would behoove the rest of you to stop being so complacent, and start doing the same.

The powers that be want to keep you in the dark, they want you to remain ignorant and docile, and you're obviously only too happy to oblige.

I think it's sad.
:(
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by Allen&Bream
Go rent the damn documentary on 9/11 and analyse the video for yourself if you cant be appreciative of the work the people who made that, put into it.


I recommend:

The Great Conspiracy

but there are many others that are also quite good.
Iyrlk
quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
If you want to try and discredit it, please don't use the "Bush isn't smart enough to have planned this" because in all reality, he wasn't even smart enough to have become president. He had many strings pulled (needless to say) to get to his current position of power.

Bush is surrounded on all sides by groups of hard-line ideologues (mainly neoconservatives) who have the power and the connections to manipulate him and anyone else that they may wish to coerce towards accomplishing their own ends.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...merican_Century

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...=a090603meacher



read what i wrote, don't read the summary, you sound like you just read the summary

and if you did read what i wrote, then rebuke it logically. don't pull a checker's speech on me. your not nixon, and wow, he was a president too, are you gonna comment on that instead of logically arguing with what i said?
Iyrlk
actually f*ck it, i read half the sh*t you stirred up and i don't want to continue. have fun. if you're right, congrat, gives me reason to hate US more. if you're wrong, i'm sorry.
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by Iyrlk
read what i wrote, don't read the summary, you sound like you just read the summary

and if you did read what i wrote, then rebuke it logically. don't pull a checker's speech on me. your not nixon, and wow, he was a president too, are you gonna comment on that instead of logically arguing with what i said?


Well, I'm still trying to figure out what your argument really is.

I base the great majority of my assertions on certain empirical facts, prior histories of certain individuals and groups, and the rationales that drive (or have driven) both the seen and unseen powers behind the Bush administration and/or our quasi-representative form of government.

So what is your argument? (and please excuse me if I don't respond for a few hours as I'm getting ready to head out the door.)
SiLveR_NrGy_985
now that i think about it........... i doubt most of all these videos, it seems interesing and all but i really doubt any of these things happened, just another way to get people to believe things that arnt given with full evidence, especially the idea that the US is behind all this?? thats just way out of line and i highly doubt the US would have EVER thought about doing all this, question more likely would b why would they even do it? its illogical, if these were tru they would at least have interviewed professionals , ones who have analyzed,studied, and calculated these things happen
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985
now that i think about it........... i doubt most of all these videos, it seems interesing and all but i really doubt any of these things happened, just another way to get people to believe things that arnt given with full evidence, especially the idea that the US is behind all this?? thats just way out of line and i highly doubt the US would have EVER thought about doing all this, question more likely would b why would they even do it? its illogical, if these were tru they would at least have interviewed professionals , ones who have analyzed,studied, and calculated these things happen


Your post reminds me of a good term,

    Unconscious Incompetence

    (you don't know what you don't know)


Look at the facts. They had plenty of motivation to do this, especially with the War Drum's beat becoming ever-increasingly louder.


quote:
Winston Churchill said "The first casualty of War is always Truth."


Ever insightful, this incident even had Hunter S. Thompson quoting Churchill in the disastrous wake of 9/11...


http://espn.go.com/page2/s/thompson/010918.html


I much prefer this quote, however:


quote:
A pre-emptive war in 'defense' of freedom would surely destroy freedom, because one simply cannot engage in barbarous action without becoming a barbarian, because one cannot defend human values by calculated and unprovoked violence without doing mortal damage to the values one is trying to defend.

J. William Fulbright
Orpheus Is Dead
quote:
Originally posted by Allen&Bream
Haha...I'm still in highschool fyi

Open ur friggin' eyes and take in the truth. Your government has lied to you. Get your own video of 9/11 and point out the same things they did in the conspriacy video, cockbag. Do your own research if you can't comprehend the information they're already giving you.



No dude. you're wrong. There was a UFO sighted just before and after the fall of the towers. It was aliens :wtf:

All your michael moore novels and warblog reading amount to . Don't read unless its reffereed by a university, ie: michael moore has been prooved to constantly warp facts and misquote.

But I won't blame you. After all you're just a kid.

quote:
Originally posted by Furel
LOL! This guy thinks he's some kind of oracle or something...
"the truth won't disappear".
HAHAHAHA..


:stongue:

oooooo.....(ghost sounds)

:wtf:

By the way most of you other conspirists have written up your replies, with the use of old quotes that don't prove , and a hefty does of information supllied by gas station attendants and unemployed journalists all the signs are clear.

ing arts students :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
SiLveR_NrGy_985
sorry but i just dont buy it most of these videos have been created to change peoples minds and maybe the explosions in the building were fake, they could've added them onto the video ...... notice how so many of these videos came up but no one even really makes a mention of them like they did with michael moore's videos.... and yes i do like michael moore but some of his stuff can b a little exagerated and irrelevant as well

djHollen
theyre twisting facts to support a predetermined agenda. i guess there was nothing electrical or any gas mains in the buildings that couldve exploded. i dont believe any of this . i was there. no knew was was going on. everything seemed like it was exlpoding.
and whats this sesmic bull. get the out of here with that nonreputable source.
a freakin 747 crashed into the building. you think youre an expert on planes crashing into building. "a plane going full speed would definitely not rock the foundation of the building" get the out of here.
the jet fuel weakend the steel. it doesnt have to melt it down. it was weaken so much, not melted down at the 3000 degrees or whatever its supposed to be, that it couldnt support the weight above it anymore. so it came crashing down onto the next floor which couldnt support that weight. you guys are idiots to believe this .
this is a propaghanda film. nothing more and nothing less. its a shame people puit so much effort into lies, deceit, and twisting of truth to prove their agenda.
nova2wl
quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Lackey, would you mind explaining all of the eyewitness reports of secondary explosions in each building? Building 7, which was distanced from WTC towers 1 and 2, was admittedly "pulled" - which is the professional lingo for bringing a building down using controlled demolition. Any ideas on that one?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/15350...13_evans_vi.ram


the term "pull" has a different meaning to a firefighter than to a demolition expert.To a firefighter to pull a building means to pull off and let it burn.
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