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Breakdowns (pg. 2)
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| Floorfiller |
| that's the problem with trance these days...its so over done. the breakdowns...the crappy overdone melodies...i like trance, but that's why so many people including myself have looked to other genres... |
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| daylightdancer |
| I like my breakdowns alot. but i do agree it does just keep going for a bit long sometimes, i like tunes i can dance to constantly and not sometimes they can be just as good as tracks without the break down |
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| Sjagga |
Just keep the trance/dance you dance to apart from the trance you listen, just for the music. Ofcourse (long) breakdowns aren't the thing you're waiting for when you're out of your mind dancing.
But then again, most of the time the kind of music with serious breakdowns and such isn't really music to *really* dance to anyway.
At least that's how i feel about it. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
But people have brains, and if they "need" a rest they'll rest whether there is a breakdown or not. |
Ever actually experienced a set of music all the way through? You don't want to off to the bar and miss out, but you get knackered if you dance non-stop. Breakdowns both build tension to where people really go nuts and burn a lot of energy, and they let people take a breather and get ready.
| quote: | | that was a very lame excuse. |
Excuse? For what? I hate long breakdowns as much as anyone, but breakdowns per say are pretty much vital, which is why they're a fundamental part of almost every genre of dance music. |
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| kr00t0n |
Have you noobs even been clubbing? :stongue:
Breakdowns are breakdowns, they lead the the build-up, and dancefloors love em.
Also, constant beats would bore the hell out of me. |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by montana
I always wondered why some edm producers do (but really mostly the once that produce trance) elongated breakdowns. i understand why you put a breakdown in the track, to create some tension to release it in a climax, but why do producers insist of making them longer than their own good. why do producers put so much focus in the one section that is beatless when you are creating music for people to dance to. |
Because breakdowns are in the formula for making a track. Duh. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| i don't know about ridiculously long breakdowns, but i think they're necessary to give the people on the dancefloor a break. otherwise you'll see a whole bunch of pooped candy kids. |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i don't know about ridiculously long breakdowns, but i think they're necessary to give the people on the dancefloor a break. otherwise you'll see a whole bunch of pooped candy kids. |
No, they're not necessary. Radagast, I mean Aiwendil hit the nail on the head. People have brains. If you need a breakdown to get you to stop dancing there is something wrong with you regardless if you are on pills or not. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
No, they're not necessary. Radagast, I mean Aiwendil hit the nail on the head. People have brains. If you need a breakdown to get you to stop dancing there is something wrong with you regardless if you are on pills or not. |
People like to keep dancing. If you're in the middle of a really good set, you don't want to sit down for a rest. People aren't going to dance until they can't move, then sit down for half an hour. They want pauses in the flow, variation and tension. Constantly dancing like a mindless drone is not only exhausting, it's rapidly banal. |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
People like to keep dancing. If you're in the middle of a really good set, you don't want to sit down for a rest. People aren't going to dance until they can't move, then sit down for half an hour. They want pauses in the flow, variation and tension. Constantly dancing like a mindless drone is not only exhausting, it's rapidly banal. |
But when every track in a set has a 2 minute long breakdown isn't that just ridiculous? It's like "Ok DANCE! Now STOP! DANCE again! STOP! HANDS IN THE AIR...NOW!" Can't get more mindless than that. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
But when every track in a set has a 2 minute long breakdown isn't that just ridiculous? It's like "Ok DANCE! Now STOP! DANCE again! STOP! HANDS IN THE AIR...NOW!" Can't get more mindless than that. |
Yes. Long breakdowns are self-defeating, and DJs who play breakdown centric tracks constantly are idiots. But that isn't breakdowns as a whole. Most tracks have little rhythmless sections to bring in new stuff. I think a big breakdown should only be brought out every three or four tracks: it adds variation, keeps a groove and allows people to get a bit worn out before giving them chance to rest. |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
But when every track in a set has a 2 minute long breakdown isn't that just ridiculous? |
Yes, very.
But I think System-J's point is that having a major breakdown every third or fourth track can be a healthy part of a trance set, not necessarily a distraction from it. |
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