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Can the United States establish a stable, democratic government in Iraq? (pg. 3)
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| Fir3start3r |
It can work but it's going to be up to the people of Iraq to decide to want it to.
The States will be there for as long as they (the Iraqis) can pull themselves together; something no one else has ever given them the chance to do without some sort of repression. |
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| gouuryella |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
continue with this pathetic racist attitude and you'll most likely get banned.
p.s with that reply you finally showed how mature you really are and it shows that obviously you are not ready for political discussions.
so get lost or go back to COR :) |
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend. |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend. |
i never saw anyone but u totally abandon the debate and launch into a wave of personal insults that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. you my friend dont belong in this debate. |
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| Michael19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend. |
COp on for sake.
This forum doesnt really accept personal insults, if thats what your looking for go to the COr.Otherwise debate the points like an adult and leave the childish crap out.
Bush will never allow a truly deomcatic goverment, just like he did during the elections against al gore. THe future of iraqi all depends on wether the AMerican troops are ever withdrawn. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
There isnt anything racist what i just said, you just think every Bush supporter is racist because of your litle small brain. Have you ever seen me be a regular at COR? No, so i suggest you should stop make bald statements. I think your the one here not ready for a political discussion because all you do is bash Bush and the U.S, thats your only political knollege, oh yeah and U.S is in the M.E to steal thier oil. You can joke me all you want about my age but i have more political knollege then you will ever have in your whole life my friend. |
yup you won the discussion and I lost,you are truly the one with the brain here and the knowledge.:haha: |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Michael19
Bush will never allow a truly deomcatic goverment, just like he did during the elections against al gore. THe future of iraqi all depends on wether the AMerican troops are ever withdrawn. |
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here, other than about 10 different things in 2 sentences... :conf: :wtf:
The future of Iraq depends on the Iraqis, not the Americans.
The Americans have already made it quite clear they're outta there as soon as Iraq has secured itself.
They don't want to be there too much longer either I'm sure.
The problem is if the Americans leave too early and the region falls again to some half-wit, local tribal leader come despot with spite for Western culture.
If that happens, it nullifies everything everyone has been fighting for. |
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| Michael19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here, other than about 10 different things in 2 sentences... :conf: :wtf:
The future of Iraq depends on the Iraqis, not the Americans.
The Americans have already made it quite clear they're outta there as soon as Iraq has secured itself.
They don't want to be there too much longer either I'm sure.
The problem is if the Americans leave too early and the region falls again to some half-wit, local tribal leader come despot with spite for Western culture.
If that happens, it nullifies everything everyone has been fighting for. |
How excaclty will iraqi secure itself? its an going to be a very difficult task and take alot of time.
The future depends on the americans, if they leave too early as you say the will hit the fan. Its all about when the americans decide to leave. Its going to take years before the iraqi's are able to look after there own affairs. The americans have to stay until they can, otherwise the whole place will break out into a huge civil war. |
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| gouuryella |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
i never saw anyone but u totally abandon the debate and launch into a wave of personal insults that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. you my friend dont belong in this debate. |
Like you have said something valuable in this whole debate. I didnt abandon it but some people like hardcore make you say stuff that is not appropricate for this forum for thier complete idiotic statements because they cant read well. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
Like you have said something valuable in this whole debate. I didnt abandon it but some people like hardcore make you say stuff that is not appropricate for this forum for thier complete idiotic statements because they cant read well. |
what did I say that is not appropiate?just because you dont agree or dont understand what Iam saying doesnt make it unapropiate. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
George, do yourself a favor and go read Where the Right Went Wrong. This book is entirely about the neoconservative movement, and how they have come into power in the U.S. The author, Pat Buccahan, makes some very interesting points, especially how the neocons see America as a great empire. These people are twisted, and most of allhave no idea how to run an efficient government. What ever happened to the days of small government? |
Haven't seen read that book (and have just finished the bit on neoconservatives and starting on Lebanon now) but I did use one of Buchanan's articles on the neoconservative relationship to Israel which was pretty useful (its called "Who's War?" if you haven't seen it and its on the net) |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
Like you have said something valuable in this whole debate. I didnt abandon it but some people like hardcore make you say stuff that is not appropricate for this forum for thier complete idiotic statements because they cant read well. |
yea i did. i stated my opinion in a rational way free from idiocy for anybody who didnt share my point of view. u were good stating yours then, when somebody came into opposition of what you thought, you didnt counter debate them. instead you childishly insulted them. thats garbage for the forum. i got nothing against you, but im just tellin you, keep the personal insults out. nobody likes reading that. |
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