Originally posted by Krypton
Yes, we were decieved. Thank god president's only have 2 terms.
the deception is we were decieved.
the deception obviously benefits NOONE, but the people who would like you to think you are being decieved.
this is called politics
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Q5echo
the deception is we were decieved.
the deception obviously benefits NOONE, but the people who would like you to think you are being decieved.
this is called politics
Geez, are you really THAT naive?
The deception obviously benefitted the Bush administration, seeing as how they're still in power and not in jail for treason.
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by ogvh5150
According to the Project For A New American Century the short list is:
Iraq
Iran
North Korea
But not in that order.
How about Syria and Turkey? They're probably next on the list.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
Geez, are you really THAT naive?
no. i think you'd have to be naive to think that George Bush actually went into Iraq knowing there wasn't WMD's and try to get away with it without finding or producing any.
that naivete' just sounds more plausible to me. it sounds more plausible to a lot of people. actually i think you are the minority here.
seriously there is no "fine line" here between being wrong after the fact and lying about it before the fact.
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The deception obviously benefitted the Bush administration, seeing as how they're still in power and not in jail for treason.
there can be only one event that you are reffering to here and thats the 2004 election. if i recall correctly we still didn't find WMD's.
...so, in effect, as it relates to your argument, corrolation does not imply causation.
...furthermore, as it relates to your "treason" assertion, unlike the 2004 election that "kept him in power" he has yet to be tried for treason (never will) the converse applies; causation does not imply corrolation.;)
i think you're are a very scared and confused person, that is really not that bright to begin with.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
How about Syria and Turkey? They're probably next on the list.
yeah, Billary is gonna nuke'em.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Q5echo
no. i think you'd have to be naive to think that George Bush actually went into Iraq knowing there wasn't WMD's and try to get away with it without finding or producing any.
that naivete' just sounds more plausible to me. it sounds more plausible to a lot of people. actually i think you are the minority here.
agree totally. all the evidence points to george W et al truly believing there were WMDs in iraq. sure, they sexed it up a lot etc, but it IS pretty naive to think the coalition of the willing went on and on (and on!) about WMDs if they didnt think he had them. coz theyre all looking like s now!
Q5echo
the deception only benefits George Bush if we actually DID find WMD's.
the undeniable truth is we DIDN'T find WMD's.
to go any further with this thinking George Bush lied is absolutely insane and ludicrous and only points to the obtuseness of the Bush Derangement Crowd.
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Q5echo
the deception only benefits George Bush if we actually DID find WMD's.
the undeniable truth is we DIDN'T find WMD's.
to go any further with this thinking George Bush lied is absolutely insane and ludicrous and only points to the obtuseness of the Bush Derangement Crowd.
He lies about everything else. What would make this any different?
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Q5echo
no. i think you'd have to be naive to think that George Bush actually went into Iraq knowing there wasn't WMD's and try to get away with it without finding or producing any.
that naivete' just sounds more plausible to me. it sounds more plausible to a lot of people. actually i think you are the minority here.
seriously there is no "fine line" here between being wrong after the fact or lying about it before the fact.
there can be only one event that you are reffering to here and thats the 2004 election. if i recall correctly we still didn't find WMD's.
...so, in effect, as it relates to your argument, corrolation does not imply causation.
...furthermore, as it relates to your "treason" assertion, unlike the 2004 election that "kept him in power" he has yet to be tried for treason (never will) the converse applies; causation does not imply corrolation.;)
i think you're are a very scared and confused person, that is really not that bright to begin with.
lol
I think that they knew that they wouldn't find the WMD's but they were relying on a Nation of ignorant sheeple like yourself to not do or say anything about it. Nice work ;)
And yeah, I am scared. I'm scared that idiotic, zombified pansies like yourslelf are going to be as complacent and compliant in the face of any real (and potentially upcoming) National crisis as you've been through all of the injustices that have occured within just the last several years alone.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
lol
I think that they knew that they wouldn't find the WMD's but they were relying on a Nation of ignorant sheeple like yourself to not do or say anything about it. Nice work ;)
right. everyone is wrong and you seem to have the inside poop on what the President was really thinking. he just crossed his fingers after all that was said prior to the war about WMD's and hoped for the best.:rolleyes: like the President is all by himself there in the oval office pulling all the war strings.
i mean how f**king obtuse do you have to be to believe this little world you've created for yourself?
look dude, you are whats wrong with this country not me. k?
you create this fictional world. you live in it. and then react indignantly like you know better than everyone else when someone points out the obvious to you.
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And yeah, I am scared. I'm scared that idiotic, zombified pansies like yourslelf are going to be as complacent and compliant in the face of any real (and potentially upcoming) National crisis as you've been through all of the injustices that have occured within just the last several years alone.
you obviously didn't grow up in the 80's
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
What would make this any different?
facts
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Q5echo
right. everyone is wrong and you seem to have the inside poop on what the President was really thinking. he just crossed his fingers after all that was said prior to the war about WMD's and hoped for the best.:rolleyes: like the President is all by himself there in the oval office pulling all the war strings.
i mean how f**king obtuse do you have to be to believe this little world you've created for yourself?
look dude, you are whats wrong with this country not me. k?
you create this fictional world. you live in it. and then react indignantly like you know better than everyone else when someone points out the obvious to you.
you obviously didn't grow up in the 80's
No, I'm just extremely curious and am also a rather voracious reader. I've known for years that Bush, Cheney and Rummy were pushing to get into Iraq even before 9/11, which was an event they simply used as another pretext for war. If you got your head out of your ass, turned off the boob tube and did a little research maybe you'd understand these things.
And I'm sorry, Q5 - but it's a gross overabundance of apathy and ignorance that is destroying our country. It's people like myself who are trying to change that, though. Which is pretty much the reason why I'm on this board in the first place, to help lift that veil of ignorance. And I know that noone likes to be called ignorant but if you didn't act as such I would never had to have said it.
The world is meant to be understood which is precisely the reason why I DON'T even read fiction anymore. Heck, I really don't even watch TV unless I'm at a friend's house and it's on and the only reason why I even do then is because I don't like to be rude. ;)
