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I've checked through the search and only found stuff for dj's so I ask..I also want an up to date answer as maybe new stuff has come out?? anyway I do a lot of my productions on the headphones(none of my mixing though) and I would just like some reccamendations on some good headphones to use for production.
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| Analog Artisan |
| Even though they are DJ headphones.. theres a huge amount of people who use Sennheiser HD25's for dance production due to the incredible bass responce and huge noise reduction.. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Analog Artisan
Even though they are DJ headphones.. theres a huge amount of people who use Sennheiser HD25's for dance production due to the incredible bass responce and huge noise reduction.. |
That is exactly why you DON'T want to use them for production.
The Yamaha NS-10 studio monitors were quite possibly the worst monitors ever produced - they had no bass response and horrible screeching in the high frequencies - and yet hundreds of the greatest tracks ever made were produced on them. If you could make a track sound good on those, it would have the disco smile and sound good just about anywhere.
The de facto standard of studio monitor headphones (for production) is the AKG K240. They've been around for decades, just like the NS-10s, and come highly recommended from almost every professional. There have hardly been any changes since they were first made - the only improvement has been the K240DF, which costs more coin but is better for producing because it has a much lower impedance (meaning you do not need to get a headphone amp) and is calibrated for a flatter frequency response.
Most Sennheisers are "audiophile" headphones, which are absolutely amazing for listening to music. They are designed especially to sound good regardless of source material, and that's exactly what you don't want. The 240 sounds cold, harsh, screechy, and is generally not very easy to get a good sound out of - and ever since I started using them, I've found that the resulting tracks sound good on ALL of my test systems - I rarely, if ever, have to make any technical tweaks. (Of course by "good" I just mean the sound quality... whether or not the tracks themselves are "good" is obviously subjective).
DO NOT get audiophile headphones, from any manufacturer, which are designed to make music sound *good*. You want an ACCURATE sound, not a pleasing one. If you want to go truly high end, you can go for the Sennheiser HD600 or above, which are ridiculously expensive, but unlike the lower models, have a much flatter frequency response and are much more accurate. The AKG studio monitors are much more reasonably priced, though, and you won't be disappointed with the results. |
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| D-res |
for production only stick with sennheiser or sony. both make awesome headphones for whatever you're looking for, although you're going to have to shell out some cash for them.
pioneer is pretty good in the audio business too so look into them too. remember you'll be spending well over 100 if not hundreds of dollars for good headhones. |
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| DaveSchloosh! |
I use the sennheiser hd590's and swear by them.
The best advice for monitoring and mixing is to use as many different speaker/headphone set ups as you can, the more you listen through the more accurate impression you get of your music. |
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| Analog Artisan |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
That is exactly why you DON'T want to use them for production.
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I think you may have misinterpreted what I ment by bass response. Most headphones, especially the cheaper end of the market, has a very weak bottom end, so your definatly not getting a flat response.
The HD25's from my experience listening to other brands had the flatest reponse.. but that is "my" opinion and i was only looking in a certain price bracket.
I'll be the first to say they are not absolutely flat, and do give the sound "some" colour.. but as the original poster said.. he wont be using them for mixing.. he will use monitors.. I've always found things done on the HD25's when taken to other setups.. or monitors are very close to where they need to be.
Computer Music mag also did a review on headphones and classed the HD25's ahead of AKG, beyerdynamic and only just behind the Sony MDR7509 which are at least $100 more expensive. |
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| Thois |
| i have got beyerdynamic dt 770 pro's (150 euro's)... I am really happy with them, although a bit too bass heavy imo. They are sooo comfortable and the sound is fantastic (they are studio headphones btw)... Anyhow that's all i know, i havent tested many other headphones... Oh yes, when i did research for which headphones to buy, AKG's did good too, but i couldnt find them at my store... Sony MDR 506 or something like that were good for the price, but only if you buy them in US. blablabla, i really shouldnt be posting this, because there is little i know about headphones |
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| Limit |
| thanks, some good info here. |
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| Corteoz |
Personally I got Sony MDR-7506. It's one of the best studio-monitor headsets you can buy when you're a semi-pro producer who don't want to use $500 on a headset. It's quite "cheap" $100-150 or something.
I've used it with two different soundcards, and first when I got a pro soundcard I realized how good the headset was.
AKG has a pair that's said to be about just as good, but I read a couple of reviews where the Sony's came out with a better score.
BTW, you should not mix something on a pair of headphones. It's good for monitoring. EQ-ing, noise filtering and those picky details. When producing you should listen to your track in a variaty of speakers. That way you'll know what sounds best on most speakers. |
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| Frase |
| i jus use my hd25's, they aint let me down yet |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Analog Artisan
Computer Music mag also did a review on headphones and classed the HD25's ahead of AKG, beyerdynamic and only just behind the Sony MDR7509 which are at least $100 more expensive. |
Which models from AKG? And what criteria was the review based on?
The Sony MDR-750x are very good choices, you won't go wrong with those. The AKGs have gotten a few bad reviews for the very same reason that so many professionals swear by them - they don't mask distortion, noise, or other unpleasant sounds. So people use them in a production, can't get a good sound, and think hey, these headphones suck - and chuck them or write up bad reviews. But when I listen to professional productions I do not hear any problems on my K240DFs - I only hear those problems in a wide variety of amateur productions.
The AKG 240DF model can't hold a candle to the Sennheiser HD600+ (HD580+ are good too, but not really worth the price). However, for production purposes, there is simply no contest between the 240DF and the HD25. DJ headphones are never good for production because they are specifically designed to be "easy" on your ears. For production, you want the harshest possible sound you can get because it is the best "reference" (i.e. the best indication of what you may hear on other systems).
I'm not trying to state my opinions as fact, but I am speaking from personal experience here as well as that of many others. When you're testing out a bunch of different headphones (same goes for studio monitors), and on one of them you hear sounds you've never heard before, that is the one you should get, and that is the one I got. I spent a lot of time researching this, not just from reviews and specs but from my own ears. HD25s simply do not cut the mustard for production purposes. |
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| Azza Robinson |
| well diginut you have definatly made my mind up as im just about to buy some headphones meself! thanks dude :) |
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