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Your dad might not be your dad (pg. 2)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
There's a big difference between reading scientific literature and talking out of your ass like you are doing. |
Great arguments there.
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
But hey, you can believe whatever the heck you want to believe for all I care. Fine by me. |
I thought we were debating but, if you're so easily threatened, all right. I was looking forward to learning and sharing, but I guess I found the wrong person. Never mind, then.
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
"Culture" has nothing to do with evolution because it appeared only at the very last moment. |
Oh, really?
Barkow, Jerome; Cosmides, Leda; Tooby, John (1992) The Adapted Mind: Evolutionary Psychology and The Generation of Culture ISBN 0-19-510107-3 ;)
I'm out. |
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| TranceGiant |
| You see now why by Jewish law the mother's religion is the one that matters? |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
i've been wondering about this myself.
...but i'm pretty sure i'm Cyrus King's dad. there, i said it. |
heheehheeheh.... youre sooo cute!
he he he |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
It doesn't make sense to people who don't understand evolution.
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"You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do."
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
From scotsman.com
So assuming that we're about 20 active participants in here, that means that there's a 56% chance that at least one of us has the wrong dad. Hmmm.:eyespop:
To me, what matters is who raised me, though. I don't get the fuzz about biological ties. |
Well, my parents are both dead, so reckon that's that. I must be in the 44 percentile then.
;)
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| *InVeRs3* |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
You do know this doesn't make sense, right? |
It's widely accepted everywhere.
look at another example. take it to caveman times.
guy #1 is handsome but a bad hunter. guy #2 is ugly and a great hunter. guy #1 just has sex with all types of women because he's hot. But still bad at hunting. guy #2 isn't as hot, but is great at hunting, women only want him for his great hunting skills though.
Being handsome/pretty = great health (before society taught us what's handsome and what isn't)
So the woman might get a kid who has great health and he might be a great hunter because the dad is kind of married to the girl. |
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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
i knew a girl who had her parents and when she became 18 her mom told her that the person she considered as her dad wasn't her dad but he raised her simply because the mother cheated on her husband and became pregnant but as the guy with who she had sex didn't want to have a kid she came back with her husband and told her husband the baby was from him
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| Lira |
Now that story is punk rock, hsbd, what did the girl do after her mother told her that?
| quote: | Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
It's widely accepted everywhere. |
Let's ignore these argumenta ad populum, shall we? ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
look at another example. take it to caveman times.
guy #1 is handsome but a bad hunter. guy #2 is ugly and a great hunter. guy #1 just has sex with all types of women because he's hot. But still bad at hunting. guy #2 isn't as hot, but is great at hunting, women only want him for his great hunting skills though.
Being handsome/pretty = great health (before society taught us what's handsome and what isn't)
So the woman might get a kid who has great health and he might be a great hunter because the dad is kind of married to the girl. |
Hmm... although I do understand where you come from, this scenario is quite intriguing:
First of all, health. If the guy is a bad hunter, he probably has to count on others to get his food, so he would be dependent on them and, as he was not doing his job - now, what would this slacker be doing to the community? - he wouldn't probably get the best chunks of food (if he got any food at all). The chances of being healthy are quite low.
Also, beauty, or hotness is influenced to some extent to wealth and social success:
- In pre-industrial societies, having a muscular physique and tanned skin was attractive, but signified that the man had to work in the fields all day, and was consequently likely poor and uneducated. Having pale skin and/or a fatter physique was considered highly attractive, as a symbol that the man was rich or educated enough to avoid manual labour in the field.
- In industrial societies, having a pale body was considered unattractive, as it was a sign that the person worked in a factory and lived in dense, polluted urban areas with weakened sunlight. Being tanned and muscularly-defined instead of fat or undeveloped muscularly became attractive, as a symbol that the man lived in the countryside, which was far healthier than the cities, and performed "good honest" agricultural labour as opposed to working shifts in a factory.
- In post-industrial societies, being pale and/or fat or especially thin is may be viewed as a sign that the person has little regard for his physical state or health. Having tanned skin is viewed as naturally attractive, and as a potential sign that the person takes foreign holidays. False tans, however, can be the subject of humour. Having a fit or muscular physique is considered highly attractive, as a sign that the person takes care of his body and health, and has the time, money, and self-discipline to frequent a gym. However, having especially large, highly-developed muscles is viewed by some as naturally unattractive, and possibly indicating undesirable aggressiveness or obsession with muscles. In recent decades, a backlash against social stereotypes of male physical attractiveness has increased variation in physiques, hairstyles, fashion trends, etc, often as an expression of individuality in place of conformity to arbitrary stereotypes.
Therefore, in a society where hunting is a basic activity, the portrait of a hot clumsy hunter and an ugly hunting sap seems quite unlikely. If anything, whatever happened would be due to poor judgement rather than logic, unless you can show me how a dependent (and probably social reject) individuals would manage to fit into the group's aesthetics not showing any sign of leadership or dominance and/or how he would the group simply let him in the cave while others did the hard work. Wasn't he supposed to, at least, be doing something? |
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| metalgearsolid |
| my dad is my dad i am as ugly as he is:sadgreen: :toothless |
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| *InVeRs3* |
| good points lira, now i don't know my stance on this. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
good points lira, now i don't know my stance on this. |
Well, there's this thread with points of view from many TA's about adultery, mainly focusing other approaches. |
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