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Canada whips it out... (pg. 2)
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| Moral Hazard |
Quick word to those of you mocking the Canadian Navy.... yes, presently we do not have many ships, however, the Canadian destroyers and friggets are the most advanced naval surface ships in the world.
The Halifax class frigget (of which we have 12) is the one of the fastest warship on the seas and is armed with surface to surface missiles (eight tubes), a lazer guided Phalanx machine gun (anti aircraft and ship gun, firing rate of 3000 rounds/min), 57mm 70 Mark 2 gun (2.4 kg shells, 220/min), and two 324mm Mark 32 Mod 9 torpedo tubes. Arguably this is the best quick response/anti shipping vessel in the world today. This thing would make an artificial reef out of most ships before they would even have time to get their guns on it... it's fast, agile and very well armed. |
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| donnybrasco |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
I tend to think quite the opposite, militairy in a small modern western country is complete waste of money. There is no threat to Canada, why waste billions upon billions on an army then?! |
My guess is that Cananda has taken advantage of their friendly relationship with the U.S.
The U.S. would never allow and un-friendly neighbor to exist right on their border. Canada knows this. So why spend money to defend yourself aginst anything but the smallest of threats? If they ever got in to REAL trouble, the U.S. (their ally) would be right there to defend them.
They can save their money for other things we don't have here (like socialized medicine). |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
My guess is that Cananda has taken advantage of their friendly relationship with the U.S.
The U.S. would never allow and un-friendly neighbor to exist right on their border. Canada knows this. So why spend money to defend yourself aginst anything but the smallest of threats? If you they ever got in to REAL trouble, the U.S. (their ally) would be right their to defend them.
They can save their money for other things we don't have here (like socialized medicine). |
America take Canada's side?!
Against Denmakr? The same Denmark who is helping America out in Iraq? The same Denmark that is one of the biggest supporters of America in the EU along with the UK? Denmark who wants nothing to do with ESDP?
Canada on the other hand is more likely to get help from France! |
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| TheNobleEu |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
My guess is that Cananda has taken advantage of their friendly relationship with the U.S.
The U.S. would never allow and un-friendly neighbor to exist right on their border. Canada knows this. So why spend money to defend yourself aginst anything but the smallest of threats? If you they ever got in to REAL trouble, the U.S. (their ally) would be right their to defend them. |
No, no, and no.
Read the thread; only then are you permitted to respond. :)
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| donnybrasco |
Most Americans kind of view Canada as a de-facto extended part of our country anyways. :tongue3 In the same kind of way we see the Southern part of the U.S.;
Full of red-necks...but they're OUR red-necks. ;) :happy2: :haha: |
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| TheNobleEu |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
Most Americans kind of view Canada as a de-facto extended part of our country anyways. :tongue3 |
True indeed, but this is more owing to the ignorance of your typical American, and also the poor quality of your school systems, which if I were you I would not be proud ":tongue3" of.
I've been told by redneck Americans that "it's called North AMURIKA because it all belongs to AMURIKA."
I've also lost count how many times I've listened to people on payphones in the States screaming at operators because they just don't understand why they can't use their calling cards "that can be used anywhere in AMURIKA" to call Canada, or Cuba, or Honduras, etc.
Quite scary indeed, down where you are. It really is another world.
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheNobleEu
True indeed, but this is more owing to the ignorance of your typical American, and also the poor quality of your school systems, which if I were you I would not be proud ":tongue3" of.
-N |
You know not every American School is bad. I believe I was fortunate enough to go to one of the best districts in the nation and it showed on our test scores we were one of the best. But of course I didn't take advantage of that and tried hard enough now I am in a community collage. Which again is pretty good compare to most American Schools. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheNobleEu
The world after WWI and WWII had extreme anti-war sentiment. Canada's culture was one of voluntary disarmament. When the fighting was over after WWII, the fleet was mothballed, and most of it was sold to the US Navy, and the rest were ripped apart for scrap iron (swords into plowshares). It's useful to understand why Canada disarmed.
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Good point.
In much the same way Canada volunteered enlistment (yes volunteered), this is not surprising.
Off topic; it's hard to believe that men actually volunteered to land, be part of D-Day and fight for the freedom that we take so much for granted.
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The real tragedy is how the Liberal government single-handedly destroyed the Canadian military, and then treated our tradition of military excellence so blithely and dismissively, first with their lack of funding, their abuse of the core cadre, and then with their ideology of "peacekeeping" (no such thing).
And then of course you have Canadians that hop on the wagon and do the same thing...
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This is a whole story unto itself; a tragedy it is...:sadgreen: |
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| donnybrasco |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheNobleEu True indeed, but this is more owing to the ignorance of your typical American, and also the poor quality of your school systems, which if I were you I would not be proud ":tongue3" of.
-N |
Ah, bring on your Pleasure-Patrol Yachts..."AMURIKA" is ready!! :whip: |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
Ah, bring on your Pleasure-Patrol Yachts..."AMURIKA" is ready!! :whip: |
Nah they'd just have to resort to guerrilla/insurgency tactics then you'd never beat em! |
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| donnybrasco |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Nah they'd just have to resort to guerrilla/insurgency tactics then you'd never beat em! |
Personally, I think we can take on all 4 of them. :tongue2 |
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| TheNobleEu |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
Ah, bring on your Pleasure-Patrol Yachts..."AMURIKA" is ready!! :whip: |
Muahah! Yess, yesss, biggg boats are grand! Beautiful! Little, ultra-manoueverable boats are for wussies, good only for fishing! Yes, keep building bigggg boats...
*turns to 2IC* Commander, flood tubes 1-4; we have some turkeys to shoot.
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