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Upfront Music - How Important Is It? (pg. 3)
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| Philby |
| exactly, before you have tune that everyone loves it had to be upfront for a while... |
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| ONION |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dean Millson
Can you give an example of it at all? Just trying to work out what you mean that's all.
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I was at a private party about 4 or 5 weeks ago ( about 300+ ppl ) and this ing noob and a half was playing track after track. Sure they were upfront tracks, however the crowd at the party didnt appreciate the music he was playing and cleared the dancefloor.
Now one would assume that a good DJ would actually take notice of a crowds reaction. Im all for educating the masses with a different style or a diverse range of music. However if its not appealing to anyone why continue? Im not saying to drop 2 Full Moons and a Trout every week to get a crowd going... and to be honest half the drug ed tards that go out these days wouldnt get into that track. However if the DJ happens to be playing at a party / club / venue where the crowd is getting into the more spacey / out there stuff... then dont be afraid to drop that track simply because its not upfront anymore.
If a crowd is getting into the more driving stuff, dont be afraid to drop BBE - Flash even if its like 10 years old. Take into consideration the punters view and dont be so focussed on playing music thats 3 days old, when a crowd isnt getting into it.
Good music, is good music... no matter how old or new it is.
Hope this explained things further for you.
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr P
now for me to post in a serious music talking thread is unusual but this thread does come out timely after this weekend.
Sure its not pointed?
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Obviously you dont know me so you wouldnt know this - however im not one to get into scene gossip. I didnt go out the weekend when you made your post therefore I wouldnt know who you are reffering to. Nonetheless if a DJ was clearing a room that w/e because he or she was too busy playing upfront tracks it only goes to prove my point.
This thread was not pointed at anyone as im a pretty upfront and honest kind of guy... If I think someone is retarded i will tell them straight to their face. |
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| Teknoscaper. |
Like everything in life, you need a balance.
I recently moved to key mixing, so keys dominate my tracklists rather than the age of tracks. |
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| 00soups00 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
Like everything in life, you need a balance.
I recently moved to key mixing, so keys dominate my tracklists rather than the age of tracks. |
maybe you're not such a bad bloke.. key mixing = the law :) |
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| Dean Millson |
| i'd be more than happy to debate that with you soups ;) |
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| 00soups00 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dean Millson
i'd be more than happy to debate that with you soups ;) |
okay, maybe Beat matching is more of a law, but key mixign adds a great dimension |
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| Lister Cooray |
| I have seen several times people on here boasting about tunes they got sent over from Armin's grandma or Tiesto's cat or some "big time producer". To be honest i couldnt give a . Let people brag about you instead of the other way. Having upfront music doesn't make you a better dj. I think its more about timing: what tracks to drop and when. Playing upfront music is great and IS needed, however you can't play 3 hours of upfront music because you are going to lose the crowd, especially locally. You also can't "educate" everyone because not everyone wants to be educated therefore you have to be diverse in what you play in order to keep the vibe in the room. Timing comes down to the time slot you are playing and feeling the crowd. Obviously you need a balance to everything....Pretty straight forward me thinks :tongue2 |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by 00soups00
but key mixing adds a great dimension |
roger that! right on the money soups.
then why does your location say \"key mixing is for professors\"? i thought that kinda indicated your disdain for the practice?? |
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| DaveBegic |
on the money right there. i think local dj's get a bit ahead of themselves because they will go to a big night where all internationals are playing and they will mimmic what the big dj does. people have to realise that party goers dont really go out for the education on a weekly basis, they save that for the big ones.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lister Cooray
You also can't "educate" everyone because not everyone wants to be educated |
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| 00soups00 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
roger that! right on the money soups.
then why does your location say \"key mixing is for professors\"? i thought that kinda indicated your disdain for the practice?? |
its an in joke between me and an ex professor :) |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| ^^ alrighty then. glad we\'re on the same page :) and glad youre a key-mixing slut too soups :) |
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| queen_vee |
Playing ‘upfront’ tracks for the sake of showing everyone you’ve got a set of records no one else has ever heard is stupid. Play what the crowd wants, they paid for your wage- and what they want is going to depend on the party- some crowds want to hear brand new, (good quality!) sounds (a la Keitel & Sunny), others want something familiar (a la Padula & Volume).
| quote: | Originally posted by Lister Cooray
I have seen several times people on here boasting about tunes they got sent over from Armin's grandma or Tiesto's cat or some "big time producer". |
Btw, there's too many DJ’s who cannot form an opinion of their own IMHO. Seriously, just cos Armin plays it, doesn't mean it's a good track... but Armin plays it so everyone man and his dog plays it and the familiarisation helps it to become a ‘hot track’ with the crowds despite the fact it’s e. Who’s going to remember half the tracks raved about in 2005 in five years time? DJ's have a duty of care to the clubbers to find the gems that would otherwise remain undiscovered ;)
ASOT is a con! |
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