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| Project 7 |
| Just found this, and thought may aswell post it, suppose it will help some :cool:here |
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| gr8ape |
| Looks real nice and professional, gonna check it out, thx |
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| Icone |
'n00bs' - cool word isn't it? :)
Guess it must be helpful if it comes from Manuel Schleis. Is it fully free though? |
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| Thois |
| this is really a good read |
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| themohawk |
I guess you could say that its not just for socalled "noobs", everyone can pick up something from this! :)
Good reading! |
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| Rob |
| Okay, I read every word in this guide, and now I wish someone had warned me to not waste my time with such a badly written and uninformative piece of . |
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| everyMan |
oh Rob you exaggerate! I've at least learned what Manuel looks like.:haha:
yes it's a noob guide. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rob
Okay, I read every word in this guide, and now I wish someone had warned me to not waste my time with such a badly written and uninformative piece of . |
LOL, you are absolutely ruthless dude. Come on! It's not the greatest guide ever, but I think if all the n00bs on this forum read it, there would be much fewer stupid and pointless threads. |
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| Phantax |
Actually Rob is exactly right. I was gonna make the same comment as well but it's usually not my thing to bother replying when it's something negative.
I enjoyed the read actually (I've read it a few times even..Had this pdf for a few months)....but when it comes to learning something from this guide I'd have to say all the information has been removed if it was ever there in the 1st place. There isn't 1 piece of production information in this pdf at all. It's just a lot of talking.
Take for instance in the very first section when they say here is what a modern dance track looks like and they show you a picture of an arrange page. How is that helpful to anybody? Things like that seem like someones bored day in the production forums here. Every section is so brief it doesn't make it useful for anyone. New or experienced. Im surprised there isn't a bassline section with K's and X's to teach us how to make a rhythm.
This is not the type of information I'd expect from professional producers. Really all they've done is waste their own time writing this thing up. Why would professional producers cater to the lowest common denomintor? Would you want to produce for over 15 years and then teach people things that you learned in your first year of production. Or would you prefer to communicate with a more adept audience? I can't imagine going to University for 10 years and then get out and teach kingergarten. It's exactly the same thing here. And my beef isn't with them teaching new producers the fundamentals. Im all for that. Getting into production is extremely tough at the beginning. I just think that new producers deserve even better than this. Cuz it's like Rob said. It's poorly written. It is more confusing than informative. It's far too brief to be anything but that. And anyone who has been producing for awhile knows how elaborate production truly is. Most of the stuff I've studied would fill that pdf file up 10 times over just for 1 topics worth of information. Yet they try and cram all of production into a brief starter kit that only ends up defeating the purpose of "teaching or sharing information" because by it's very nature production is vast not something that can be summed up.
They really don't explain anything. They say things in this article without explanation and just continue to move on as if you already know what they're talking about. "Sequence A" in the gate section comes to mind. The entire article is like that.
And in the same Gate section..the poorly written parts like... "as a matter of course, also be realised"
I think this is VERY poorly written both in language and the information that has been shared.
I just feel bad for not replying earlier. I could have warned Rob. |
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| Rob |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phantax
And in the same Gate section..the poorly written parts like... "as a matter of course, also be realised"
I think this is VERY poorly written both in language and the information that has been shared.
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My problem wasn't the fact that it was a noob guide, but the fact it read as if it was written by two noobs who collectively never appeared to have grasped the semantics of the English language. |
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| bachatu |
In regards to the grammar and how its written- it was originally written in German, then later transalated by a third party per request from their english speaking forum members.
Some of the stuff is indeed very basic and just a quick snap shot of certain topics, but I could never put anyone down for taking the time to write a tutorial, as long as the information is accurate, which it is in this case. Keep in mind its not something that was cross promoted, or sold by any means... it was done for the people at their forums as a quick overview, nothing fancy, for those who had requested a tutorial of some sort. |
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| FuzzyChicken |
I am a n00b, :p , interested in learning to produce, like many out there. I was wondering if there was a good online tutorial or book to buy. I am looking for something that explains step by step how to produce a simple song, rather than bits and pieces from online sources that make things complicated for the new user. I have seen some websites and other sources for guides, but to be honest they are not the best and are difficult for a new user.
The best would be something to walk you through making a sample song to show you the different elements. Then go into detail later about each process in making a song. This should be geared towards a specific program such as reason or cubase or live.
Sorry, that this has been posted a million times and I should use the search. But to be honest, how does one learn to make music without being totaly lost. |
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