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suppose you were with a woman (pg. 5)
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weymouth
What kind of relationship do you have with this girl?

A) You are good friends and have been for a long time and she trusts you as a friend. You want to sleep with her. If this is the case then she probably left not thinking anything of it than a friend saying bye to another friend.

B) You two are dating, seeing each other, or mutually interested. She was waiting for the move or trying to see if she wanted to seriously date you.

C) Your conversation with this girl on her porch was actually you looking through her window as she watched TV until 4 am and went to sleep. This means you are in.

We need specifics. During this conversation was there any physical contact at all? What did you talk about? If you talked about her past baggage then she was using you to vent some frustrations and you arent hitting it at all.
Slylee
"suppose you were with a woman..."


yea umm stop right there and remember where you are.
muzzybear
Sometimes the homing device and the "I just wanna be alone" thing kicks in. You have her number? You know where she lives? Send flowers.
igottaknow
maybe his deoderant gave out?
Tech0rz
Interesting points.

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Originally posted by Orbax
I dont know if I necessarily disagree with the guy footing the bill, etc...


You shouldn't go to restaurant for at least the first 5 meetings. It is just too formal, and unless you are actually willing to foot the bill, it just isn't worth getting into the 'Who pays for what' scenario until you are at least familiar with her attitude towards it. Orbax has the right idea with doing fun things, that you can both relax doing.

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Originally posted by Orbax
I think it needs to be YOUR decision to take them out once you feel like making the next step.


Good point. You should always be the decisive one. Example, never call a women and then she says "So what are we going to do?", then you say "I don't know, what do you want to do". You may aswell have not called. You need to PLAN what you're going to do, and where you're going to go.

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Originally posted by Orbax
The old saying of "men choose, women decide" has become more of a "keep on pressing until they get ed up enough to make some bad decisions with you" and thats bull.


The only reason "Men choose and women decide" is because men almost ALWAYS feel they need to get the approval of the women, it's instinct and goes back to the dawn of time. Just watch the animal kingdom documentaries on Discovery etc. That displays how not to act. It may seem illogical, but trust me, you know by now women are too. You need to be the selector, not the selected.
Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Tech0rz

Good point. You should always be the decisive one. Example, never call a women and then she says "So what are we going to do?", then you say "I don't know, what do you want to do". You may aswell have not called. You need to PLAN what you're going to do, and where you're going to go.


yeah, its something that Ive just gotten used to from hanging out with people who dont like just saying what they want to do hehe. I get a lot of compliments when someone asks whats up "lets go into town, grab some coffee and a sandwich and then head out to marymoore and rock climb for a bit, maybe play some frisbee, then head over to Queen Anne, grab some asian food and take it up to the park and hang out there and eat..." just generic stuff, but people seem to fail to recognize that, however gay it sounds, that when you are hanging out even with your male friends that the most important factor going on is "spending time" together!

Its not what you do, but how quality you make the time spent together. Talks and thoughts, screwing around...humans like interacting, so give them the chance to open up and be themselves around you. Only time does that ;)


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The only reason "Men choose and women decide" is because men almost ALWAYS feel they need to get the approval of the women, it's instinct and goes back to the dawn of time. Just watch the animal kingdom documentaries on Discovery etc. That displays how not to act. It may seem illogical, but trust me, you know by now women are too. You need to be the selector, not the selected.


What I meant by that was that you do something like reaching out and holding their hand while you are walking and then at one point you break off the grip to do something like point, grab something out of your pack (camera so you can take a picture of her :D) or whatever and then start going again and see if they are proactive after that...

I mean, Im not saying holding hands is this key to the universe haha, its just a convenient example, but mainly do something and see if they reciprocate. Ive had too many talks with guys and every guy thinks girls ing hate them if they dont touch us. Just the way it works, they gotta send some back you know
prolikewhoa
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Originally posted by Theresa
She was probably waiting for you to make a gaddam move on her, and finally got sick of waiting on your slow ass so left.

That's my theory!


agreed. either that or she wanted you to follow her inside.
Spacey Orange
quote:

She was probably waiting for you to make a gaddam move on her, and finally got sick of waiting on your slow ass so left
jdat
quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
"suppose you were with a woman..."


yea umm stop right there and remember where you are.


Is there supposed to be some secret meaning there?
So underlying obvious thing with the fact he was with a woman?

Damn females always making guys play guessing games even if they're asked for advise on an online forum :whip: :p

I'm very disappointed Slylee! Very!
squirrelly
Actually that thing about a girl just shutting down all of a sudden when she gets tired... absolutely true. When I'm exhausted, it's all over. And most girls are willing to go dutch on dates now, or take turns paying. If you want to stay away from the expensive, take turns COOKING (omg... cooking) for each other.

And about making the first move... again, a lot of girls make the initiative to make the first move now a days... but JUST LIKE WITH YOU BOYS, we get nervous and chicken out.

Damn, you boys are ing WHINEY. With all the bitching that you do... I'm not even surprised that most of you sit online most of the damned day with no significant other... who the would want to date a bunch of whiney losers?

Orbax



im bored
Echo of Silence
quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
Actually that thing about a girl just shutting down all of a sudden when she gets tired... absolutely true. When I'm exhausted, it's all over. And most girls are willing to go dutch on dates now, or take turns paying. If you want to stay away from the expensive, take turns COOKING (omg... cooking) for each other.

And about making the first move... again, a lot of girls make the initiative to make the first move now a days... but JUST LIKE WITH YOU BOYS, we get nervous and chicken out.

Damn, you boys are ing WHINEY. With all the bitching that you do... I'm not even surprised that most of you sit online most of the damned day with no significant other... who the would want to date a bunch of whiney losers?


lmao

oh Sara, I <3 you.
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