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| Floorfiller |
http://www.pianoworld.com/keyboard.htm
the black keys are the sharp of the note to the left and flat of the note to the right...
example... A sharp = B flat |
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| Estella |
Thanks!
and there's 29 keys hahaa. That makes it easier.
How is Tori coming along? |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
Thanks!
and there's 29 keys hahaa. That makes it easier.
How is Tori coming along? |
now try not to be too jealous of this fine instrument hahaha :p
you know i can rock out on this bad boy! notice the stickers for the keys like you are gonna do hehehe :p |
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| Estella |
ahahah!
That's ok. I think mines from Toys-R-Us. :stongue:
and I'm the one dishing out $8/ half hour pocket money.
DAMN YOU :whip: |
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| colonelcrisp |
if you want a real challenge.... learn
Right Said Fred - I'm Too Sexy
clocks is easy, its just arpeggiated chords, easy left hand work as well. |
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| Estella |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
if you want a real challenge.... learn
Right Said Fred - I'm Too Sexy
clocks is easy, its just arpeggiated chords, easy left hand work as well. |
hahaa what? I'm tooo sexy for my shirt... too sexy for my shirt sooo ohhh sexaaayy. Are we on the same wave-length?
What are arpeggiated chords? and what is my left hand supposed to be doing?! :conf: On the right.. I have the 332 rhythm, like the link shows, right? and then my left is doing nothing.. I knew something was wrong! :stongue: |
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| Estella |
im so confused.. my right hand is doing arpeggiated chords?
because my right hand, the work was something a down sydrome-nee could do better than I was doing, I was just hitting single notes. The hand should be doing chords?
and my LEFT.. MAH LEFT! :conf: should it be holding a phone receiver? or doing something musically productive? |
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| Estella |
| "Chopsticks" exist for a reason. |
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| mezzir |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
Well it says you're supposed to be playing section 1 at least, with both hands...the same notes at the same time, but your left hand plays one octave lower than the right...that would make the chords....uhh....i guess...aha. Where's the person who actually plays a piano?
Feliz Navidad. |
you rang?:toothless
definately don't start off by playing everything with both hands, thats suicide
k so you got the three note 332 pattern in the right hand. those three notes outline a major triad, and in playing them in succession, you're playing an arpeggio. to make it sound much fuller, every time you play the highest of the 3 notes, add a note an octave lower with your thumb.
hmm...now that i think about it, that might be harder than i feel like it is, cause its not terribly hard for me, but i can play a 12th without much discomfort (large hands)
i'd say just start with playing the 3 note 332 pattern OVER AND OVER AND OVER again without using your thumb
when you have that, add the thumb with the octave lower
and if you finally get all that down, just do straight octaves in the tonic with your left hand |
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| est |
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
So that's what I did! With the help of this site:
http://www.8notes.com/school/riffs/...play_clocks.asp
By ear I just found the keys and barely managed with the chords! I was so happy!! The tempo is fast, it's hard to keep up.. I may for an instant and then everything goes to hell hahaa. But when I just play the 3+3+2 rhythm with the song, it meshes in.. everything is right. But there has to be more.. it sounds so .. bland when I play it on only the piano. What are those chords for? |
Nice one - youve successfully picked up the basics ;)
Chords: THe chords on the riff that you're referring to basically map out how the harmonies change in the tune. In this case, you have a chord change every bar (with 4 beats per bar). YOu have Eflat, Bflat minor, Bflat minor again, the F minor. Think of this 4 bar progression as a kind of 'musical sentence'. THen you go back and do the same chord progression again.
THe chord progressions are the framework of the piece - the melody (vocals etc) change over the top of that.
| quote: | | I'm using only my right hand... and I don't think that's all he's doing is it? :conf: |
In this piece, there are lots of things going on. You have a voice over the top and a bass too. As you're only have a meagre keyboard, you'll have to be creative! You could play the smae in both hands to start off with. Or, try playing the chords together in the left hand and arpeggiated in the right hand (this is when you just spread out the notes of a chord instead of all notes down together at once). This would be simple (and probably boring) but a good way of getting used to chords and playing with both hands.
If you find the coordination of both hands difficult, do hands separately first. If your keyboard has a 'record' function on it, you can record yourself playing the right hand, then play the left hand over it until you get used to it.
| quote: | | N00b questions: are there a different # of keys on a keyboard than piano? |
Yes. Though keyboard differ in size.
| quote: | | I want to label the keys on the keyboard as a sort of cheat sheet until I get them memorized. Can someone help? I can't find any site that just lays out the full board and has key notes. For example, on the link I provided, there are only a minimal amount of keys displayed in the pictoral piano chords at the bottom. |
OK - pianos are arranged in octaves, with 7 white notes per octave. THe musical alphabet goes from A to G (then starts again at A):
A B C D E F G A B C D (e.t.c.)
As I said, the easiest note to find is D and this is always the one between the 2 white notes. You will find several D's on your keyboard (depending on how good your keyboard is). So if you label those first, then you can work on the rest from there.
| quote: | | How am I to decipher which is which note if not all keys are displayed? |
Use your ear to decide. Play it, and if it sounds too low then go up an octave. (Clue - high, but not too high)
| quote: | | Est and Bokus.. can you elaborate a bit? |
OK what I'm saying is that if you like, you can gain a lot from listening really carefully to a tune then just playing roudn with the notes on the keyboard until you get something that sounds rihgt. (I learned Tori Amos 'Winter' that way). And I play around for literally hours jsut playing stuff I think sounds cool. No riffs, no tune I'm trying to play - just me and my notes ;)
If you're learning piano, do get access to a piano whenever you can, at a friend's house, in the university, in a church, wherever...You'll notive straight away the difference in weight on the keys and the amount of expression you can put in compared to a keyboard. YOu can also play around with pedals :) |
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| Estella |
JACKPOT! :eek:
I'll have to re-read your guys' last two posts over and over and over, until it finally sinks in... but thank you so much! especially for the detail, est. It's like a very, very, very dim clarity... arising by horseback and cattle call in the distance! |
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