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| Fir3start3r |
Lets take note...
Houston Evacuation
New Orleans Evacuation
Now where do you suppose Houston found all those bus drivers? :rolleyes:
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they're not from FEMA... |
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| Sunsnail |
| To be honest, if Hurricane Katrina landed in Texas first then I'm sure the evacuation would closely resemble what had happened in New Orleans. If Hurricane Rita then went to New Orleans, I'm sure they would evacuate with much more efficiency. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
To be honest, if Hurricane Katrina landed in Texas first then I'm sure the evacuation would closely resemble what had happened in New Orleans. If Hurricane Rita then went to New Orleans, I'm sure they would evacuate with much more efficiency. |
:wtf:
That's like sayin'...
"Well, we pointed the gun at his ass and he didn't believe us, now when we point, he moves..."
Should I just label this as... "obvious"?? |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
:wtf:
That's like sayin'...
"Well, we pointed the gun at his ass and he didn't believe us, now when we point, he moves..."
Should I just label this as... "obvious"?? |
Even if it's obvious, it's sad that it takes a catastrophy to make a change... |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Even if it's obvious, it's sad that it takes a catastrophy to make a change... |
Sad and true... :sadgreen: |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Lets take note...
Houston Evacuation
New Orleans Evacuation
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If you're suggesting that the only (or main) reason New Orleans wasn't evacuated properly was because they acted too slowly and allowed their buses to get flooded in a depot somewhere, then keep in mind that even if all those school buses were used then it wouldn't have made a great deal of difference:
| quote: | As of 2003, the most recent year for which data appears to be available, the Orleans Parish school district, which operates New Orleans' public schools, owned only 324 school buses.
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According to a September 5, 2003, article in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, "The [Orleans Parish school] district owns 324 buses but 70 are broken down."
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While estimates of the number of residents stranded in New Orleans following the storm vary, New Orleans officials have suggested that 80 percent of the city's residents evacuated before the hurricane hit. That leaves roughly 97,000 residents who remained in New Orleans.
New Orleans' combined fleet of public transit and school buses would not have had nearly enough capacity to evacuate all of those who remained in the city. A July 8 Times-Picayune article, titled "RTA buses would be used for evacuation; But plan still falls far short of needs," pointed out that the RTA owned 364 public buses. "Even if the entire fleet was used," the Times-Picayune noted, "the buses would carry only about 22,000 people out of the city -- far short of the 134,000 people estimated to be without cars in a recent University of New Orleans study." Even the addition of the full school bus fleet would have been far from sufficient to transport the remaining residents. |
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120005
Besides, where would one go about finding 300 bus-drivers at just a few hours notice? Or is that what you were getting at in the first place? |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
If you're suggesting that the only (or main) reason New Orleans wasn't evacuated properly was because they acted too slowly and allowed their buses to get flooded in a depot somewhere, then keep in mind that even if all those school buses were used then it wouldn't have made a great deal of difference:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120005
Besides, where would one go about finding 300 bus-drivers at just a few hours notice? Or is that what you were getting at in the first place? |
So there's no reason to believe that hundreds of buses that were left in a gravel pit could've been put to any use at all?
That site doesn't say anything other than opinionated spin about Fox News, so I'm suspect on your claim that it wouldn't have made any difference. Even if it was only 364 buses--stick 40 people on each bus and you're talking about 14,000+ people. Certainly not everyone, but certainly not a small number either.
And as far as getting bus drivers on demand-- that. Worst case scenario, if I'm stuck in the Superdome or somewhere else, just give me the ing keys and I'll drive us all the out of Dodge. |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
:wtf:
That's like sayin'...
"Well, we pointed the gun at his ass and he didn't believe us, now when we point, he moves..."
Should I just label this as... "obvious"?? |
You'd be surprised how many people around me don't seem to realize that. They think it's because Texas is whiter and therefore smarter than the people in New Orleans :rolleyes: |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
You'd be surprised how many people around me don't seem to realize that. They think it's because Texas is whiter and therefore smarter than the people in New Orleans :rolleyes: |
Oh I'm sure that card will come out soon enough... :rolleyes: |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Besides, where would one go about finding 300 bus-drivers at just a few hours notice? Or is that what you were getting at in the first place? |
That exuse of not being able to 'find bus drivers in time' is so full of e...
They were well aware of their prediciment even before that storm was a gleam in Mother Nature's eye.
The fact that they had DAYS notice that it was heading in their direction should have tipped them off...government beaucracy aside.
They had a documented plan for such an event!
They probably should have let FEMA know properly what the hell they needed instead of throwing their hands in the air at the last sec. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
They had a documented plan for such an event! |
Ehm you honestly think they did?! :p
To me it seems nuts if you don't have a number of bus drivers ready for an event like this. Shouldn't be that hard to find really. Aweful excuse, come up with something better renegade aka the Nagin apologist :p |
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