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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by mef
Looks similar to AirFX to me :conf: |
Something like that.
You can get the same keyboard without the sound I/O's and without the AirFx option for like a third less! |
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| Reactance |
| Hahahah, Thats a cute Controller ! :p |
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| HaZZa |
How about this one?
88 Weighted Hammer-Action Keys, Only 47 Lb!
How about the features and benefits of M-Audio's innovative Oxygen 8 in a professional studio 88-key version? M-Audio heard the clamor and delivered the killer Keystation Pro 88, an 88-key hammer-action USB powered MIDI controller with features that make it the most comprehensive and competitive product of its kind!
M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 at a Glance:
* Full 88-key weighted action keyboard, only 47 lb!
* A ton of MIDI controllers to run your soft synths
* Incredibly flexible and easy to configure
* Organ players, these faders work the way drawbars should!
Full 88-key weighted action keyboard, only 47 lb!
Regardless of whether you're a seasoned pro or just ready to take your music to the next level, the Keystation Pro 88's hammer action keys are so expressive that you just won't want to stop playing! It could easily become your sole keyboard in the studio or onstage. Yet the Keystation Pro 88 weighs only 47 lb. That's half the weight of most weighted-action keyboards!
A ton of MIDI controllers to run your soft synths
The Keystation Pro 88 offers 59 (!) assignable controls that deliver more than enough tactile command over your favorite soft synths and digital audio sequencers like Reason and Live. It unifies everything you need to experience the full potential of your virtual studio. With nine ultra-smooth Alps faders, 22 rotary controllers and 22 buttons - all MIDI assignable - you might never have to shuffle back and forth between your Keystation Pro and your computer.
The Keystation Pro 88 also delivers a pitch wheel, and a modulation wheel, plus sustain pedal and controller pedal inputs that are all fully assignable as well. 10 memory locations store your controller settings, and the included Enigma editor provides unlimited storage.
Incredibly flexible and easy to configure
Setting up knob and fader assignments on the Keystation Pro 88 couldn't be easier. Turn a knob or slide a fader, hit Control Assign and type in a controller number. Mapping controls to specific MIDI channels is just as straightforward. With four zones for setting up layers and splits plus multiple dynamic velocity curves, the Keystation Pro 88 can handle your studio or live performances with ease!
Organ players, these faders work the way drawbars should!
If you've ever tried to tweak a virtual tonewheel organ with a traditional fader box, you know how awkward it feels to "push" a fader instead of "pulling" a drawbar. The Keystation Pro 88 solves that problem with switchable-polarity faders. So when you pull any of the nine faders toward you, the drawbar level increases!
M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 Features:
* 88-key hammer-action, velocity-sensitive keyboard
* Powered via USB bus (cable included) or optional 9V power supply
* 24 MIDI-assignable rotary controllers
* 22 MIDI-assignable buttons
* 9 MIDI-assignable Alps faders
* MIDI-assignable pitch bend and modulation wheels
* MIDI-assignable foot switch and foot pedal inputs
* Controllers assignable to MIDI controllers, notes, transport controls, program changes (including LSB and MSB), sys-ex, and RPN/NRPN
* Independent MIDI channel assign for all controllers
* Four keyboard zones for layers and splits
* Multiple dynamic velocity curves
* Large custom LCD displays controller number, assigned controller, edit icons and edit values
* 10 memory locations for saving all controller assignments
* Sys-ex memory dump transmits the complete memory contents for backup purposes
* Free Enigma editor software for unlimited storage
* +/- 11 semi-tone transposition
* Dedicated buttons allow program and bank changes on the fly
* Control Mute function mutes the output of all controllers so you can position them to the desired value before tweaking
* Snap Shot button transmits all current controller settings
* Fader Drawbar mode reverses the faders for realistic operation of organ emulators such as NI B4
* MIDI In port
* MIDI Out port can drive external MIDI gear or be used as USB to MIDI Out interface
* General MIDI 1 and 2 compatible
* USB class compliant-no drivers required for Windows XP or Mac OS X
* Drivers also included for Windows 98SE, ME, 2000, XP and Mac OS 9
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| cheesy |
First of all, personally I have the Evolution MK-449c and I like it. It's a decent MIDI controller with plenty of knobs and sliders for a decent price. However, it does feel cheap (cheap plastic body, knobs, sliders, etc), and I feel like a cheap ass when I'm using it, but it works.
Second, it depends on how much you want to spend and how many keys/knobs/features you want.
The Evolution is on the cheap end for a 49 key controller with all the knobs etc. I wouldn't recommend less than 37 or 49 keys unless you really need something very portable.
M-Audio and Evolution are owned by the same company, but it seems the M-Audio division makes higher quality products.
The Pro 88 looks really nice with all those knobs and everything, but if you're going to get a full sized keyboard at that price you should be getting aftertouch, which the Pro 88 doesn't have.
Both the Alesis and Novation models look really nice. I probably would have gotten a Novation if they had the 49 key models when I got my controller.
I don't know much about the Edirol ones but they're supposed to be pretty good quality (probably better than Evolution, maybe M-Audio) |
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| 3rd Signal |
From those 3 I'd defently go with the PCRM50 without any dought.
I've tried the Evo, the PCR50 and I got a PCR80 and the the PCR is amazing, much easier to use, espeically with the easy PC interface and all.
The PCRM is different then the PCR though it's an improved version and from what I remember reading about it - it should be wicked!!
By the way, what kind of genre do you produce cause I'd suggest you get 5 octave keyboard if your more into melodic stuff, also helpfull.
My reason for not liking the Evo is cause when you use it it feels so plastic and so breakable...The way it looks is also cheap...Though can't judge things by the way they look...
Anyhow bro - Good luck.
HaZZa - That one is crazy, have tried it aswell but only in the store, never really used it. The Semi-Weighted cause feels so nice but once you try using "black keys" you'll see how annoying it can get....it's like each time your press them they go lower then the "white keys" (sorry I never learned notes, only by hear..hehe)...but rather then that if you got the money, space, and looking for a long lasting keyboard that's the one. if not, I'd go with PCR's.
-=Edit=-: D-A-M-N I just read my post and I sound like a talking Edirol commercial (or how ever thats spelled..hehe)...:eyespop: :happy2: :D |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by cheesy
I don't know much about the Edirol ones but they're supposed to be pretty good quality (probably better than Evolution, maybe M-Audio) |
Yes. |
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| djyouth |
| quote: | | ... I will say that the evolution is all hard hollow plastic ... |
| quote: | | ... However, it does feel cheap (cheap plastic body, knobs, sliders, etc) ... |
| quote: | | ... My reason for not liking the Evo is cause when you use it it feels so plastic and so breakable ... |
I'm just wondering. How come the Evolution 'feels cheap' when it weighs about 2 kilos more than both the keyboards from Edirol?
The Edirol keyboards weighs 2,4 kilos and the Evolution one weighs 4,3...
btw: The Novation Remote 61 one weighs 2 kilos..
It's just not within the frames of my logic, even if the evolution is made from another material..
Thanks, ;)
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| Airyck Sterrett |
http://www.cme-pro.com
UF Omnipotent Master Keyboard
UF is the most cost effective omnipotent master keyboard available
-The world's first durable aluminum case keyboard with pro synth concept
-The world's first keyboard with firewire audio expansion option
-The world's first MIDI master keyboard with breath controller option
-The world's first full range series MIDI master keyboard with aftertouch,include 49 to 88 keys
these things are really well made and the 49 key is only $200, plus with the firewire expansion which is only $200 as well makes for a great buy. Not many people know about these because they are a fairly new company.
UF8: US$599.00
UF7: US$399.00
UF6: US$299.00
UF5: US$199.00
Dimension:
UF8: 1408 x 372 x 150 mm, 23.5 kg
UF7: 1232 x 348 x 113 mm, 11.8 kg
UF6: 1022 x 348 x 113 mm, 9.8 kg
UF5: 859 x 348 x 113 mm, 8.2 kg
Superior classic metallic panel
Now, most of manufacturers use plastic material to make the keyboard case to save the cost, but it also reduce durability, and makes the product lack of elegant appearance. However all UF all-in-one master keyboard sit in a metallic body with cool pure black, at the first moment you touch UF keyboard, you will fall in love with it.
Hammer action grand piano weighted
UF8 uses the same 88 keys hammer action which are found in some grand pianos and which possess numerous international technology patents. It provides you with the grand piano touch feeling as well as the reliable durability. UF8 feels good enough to play it as a real grand piano.
Powerful and plenty of controllers
UF keyboard provides 8 knobs, 9 sliders, pitchbend wheel and modulation wheel, and this configuration is almost not available in other Japanese or American product. With UF series keyboards, you can easily control your music as you wish in realtime. And the control buttons such as REC, PLAY, REW, can remotely control your sequencer software in your computer directly, to make your working on your projects much simpler.
Professional aftertouch design
Breath control interface especial for playing orchestral sounds
USB interface for MIDI data transfering and self-powering
Firewire audio expansion
UF omnipotent master keyboard specification
-49/61/76 keys semi-weighted action keyboard with aftertouch (UF5 / 6 / 7)
-88 keys hammer action weighted keyboard with aftertouch(UF8)
-Pitch bend and modulation wheels
-8 assignable control knobs, preset functions including Cutoff/Resonance/Attack/Release/PAN/Reverb/Chorus/Tempo
-9 assignable control faders, preset functions including volume for 1-16 channels and master volume, and drawbar for organ sounds.
-LED data display, control button including program, transpose, octave, channel,keyboard split and 6 sequencer remote buttons, including REC, PLAY, STOP,FASTREWIND, REWIND AND RETURN TO START,etc.
-Breath controller port
-1 MIDI out port
-Sustain pedal and volume pedal jacks
-USB MIDI port, Power can be supplied via USB
-Win2000/XP and Mac OS X compatible
-Support and tested with most professional audio/MIDI sequencers
-Optional firewire expansion board
Firewire audio extension board for UF omnipotent master keyboard
-2 High quality 24bit/192kHz line input
-2 High quality 24bit/192kHz line output
-1 Mic in with professional preamp
-1 IEEE1394 firewire interface
-1 S/PDIF digital I/O
-2 high quality headphone outputs
-1 MIDI OUT port
-1 MIDI IN port
-1 MIDI THRU port
-1 headphone volume control
*Specifications are subject to change without notice |
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| HaZZa |
Ohmg.. that is a sweet device!! And I think that a good MIDI controller is about €500. I do need to spend more time in my choice between the m-audio 88, and the UF8. My big issue is that the m-audio does not have aftertouch. I never play on a keyboard with aftertouch, but what I read about it, its pretty amazing.
What I do like on the M-audio 88 is that the buttons and faders are assignable. Because I use softsynth it must become easier to move a button with the keyboard, and not with the mouse. That is the mean reason why I like the M-audio so much.
I think I want the M-audio 88. but I like the UF8 for its aftertouch. hard choice here....
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On this site you can see the M-audio 88 in 360 degrees. what I read is that the black keys are a bit low, this could be irritating.
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hxxp://www.thomann.de/thoiw7_artikel-170807.html?sn=d87bcc2ed72698e7694df1c522661a52 |
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| Airyck Sterrett |
| the knobs are assignable on all the uf controllers. Plus you have dedicated sequencer functions, like record right on the keyboard. Plus there is a button that makes it so you can switch between 2 sets of knobs and sliders, so you technically get 16 knobs and 16 sliders |
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| Reactance |
| quote: | | UF Omnipotent Master Keyboard |
WOW ! Thats really a sexy looking controller keyboard anyone here own one of these babies give me some feedback asap !! :) |
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| HaZZa |
indeed, i am gonne save some money :)
thanks Airyck |
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