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Ableton 5 vs. Logic 7 and other questions concerning hardware
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| OurManFlint |
I want to have a software and hardware campatible little studio. I'm going to get a drum machine, a midi controller or maybe two, a control surface, and possibly more.
I'm getting a MAC with the software as well, so I wnat to know what would be more campatible with what I'm getting. Also, what would I need to get a large amount of synths with my MIDI conrol. Also, does Ableton come with a system that allows you to compose with it, or is it just a sequencer. And what are some of the top of line control surfaces.
I guess that's a lot of questions. |
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| Phantax |
Logic 7 with the Mackie Universal Control surface.. You can add as many channels as you need by purchasing different units in 8 channel denominations. And also another pannel that you can add on called "C4" that controls your VST's.
Also, what would I need to get a large amount of synths with my MIDI conrol
A mixer. You might want to check out the Mackie Onyx mixers.
Also, does Ableton come with a system that allows you to compose with it, or is it just a sequencer
Sequencing is composing. |
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
I want to have a software and hardware campatible little studio. I'm going to get a drum machine, a midi controller or maybe two, a control surface, and possibly more.
I'm getting a MAC with the software as well, so I wnat to know what would be more campatible with what I'm getting. Also, what would I need to get a large amount of synths with my MIDI conrol. Also, does Ableton come with a system that allows you to compose with it, or is it just a sequencer. And what are some of the top of line control surfaces.
I guess that's a lot of questions. |
Firstly what drum machine are you getting...
Abletons midi facilities are anywhere near logics, nor is the timing as good...
Secondly since you are asking some pretty basic questions i would suggest starting with just some software until you understand what you want... |
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| Phantax |
Just once Id love to see someone reccomend using hardware only when someone asks about all the software they wanna get. Why cant someone know only a little bit about production and get themselves some hardware to learn with? If he knows about Logic 7.. control surfaces.. midi controllers and drum machines he's already well on his way.
He understands what he wants.. He wants all that stuff ^ |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
Firstly what drum machine are you getting...
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I'm thinking of getting the M-audio Finger Trigger. |
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phantax
Just once Id love to see someone reccomend using hardware only when someone asks about all the software they wanna get. Why cant someone know only a little bit about production and get themselves some hardware to learn with? If he knows about Logic 7.. control surfaces.. midi controllers and drum machines he's already well on his way.
He understands what he wants.. He wants all that stuff ^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
Firstly what drum machine are you getting...
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| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
I'm thinking of getting the M-audio Finger Trigger. |
Uhuh...... |
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| fr0st |
Ok...
I believe you can get a demo of logic express and ableton live... Soo you can try and compre the both of them..
The trigger finger is nothing more than a midi control device and it can be mapped to control anything from a sampler to your sequencers transport functions...
In the end you can buy what ever you want, but in my opinion it sounds like you are just getting into this and have read a little into this but dont know exactly what any of it does...
Read up on on the sequencers of your choice, demo them... Read up on synths, drum machines, and midi controllers... Also depending on the synth you may wanna read up on CV controls... Also find the waves plugin manual to gain a understanding of some of the basic effects along with the more advancesd ones....
After doing all that you can prolly come to a conclusion yourself without having to post here... |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
In the end you can buy what ever you want, but in my opinion it sounds like you are just getting into this and have read a little into this but dont know exactly what any of it does...
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Ya, that's sounds about right. I'm not trying to get what I want for another couple of months, so I'm trying to do some reserch on equitment, and it's really showing, haha. Thanks for the advice.
Also, I don't know if anybody knows this, but what equitment does Underworld use. |
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
Also, I don't know if anybody knows this, but what equitment does Underworld use. |
A lot more than you will be able to afford... This im almost sure of, as if you could you prolly wouldnt be asking here for advice ;)...
They use a lot of vintage gear... |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
A lot more than you will be able to afford... This im almost sure of, as if you could you prolly wouldnt be asking here for advice ;)...
They use a lot of vintage gear... |
Just asking out of curiosity, not as a comparable perspective.
Oh, and I'm looking at a budget at about $5000, not including a MAC or Logic. |
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| Phantax |
One true thing and the biggest mistake we all make as beginners is thinking that copying the equipment that our favourite producers use will mean we will sound like they do. Once you get some production knowledge under your belt you will see how ridiculous that path is. You need to learn how to produce..Once you do it will provide so many answers for you. The toughest part is building up an instinct for what production is. At the start its brutal..I feel for you man. But once you get about halfway you already know what the next half is..You can see the light at the end of the tunnel and you know what questions to ask at that point..At the beginning its so confusing you dont know where to begin at all.
The best thing you can do is find out which equipment is the best. Not which producer uses which equipment. The best sequencer will always be the best sequencer as the best synth will always be the best synth. You need to study what makes a synth good.. What makes a sequencer good. And it's not specifically something that pertains to any of us. You have to figure out why it's right for you.
You are on the right track though like I said earlier. If you get a Mac and Logic and a Mackie Control you are going in the best direction possible. The only thing that can go wrong after that is if you don't apply yourself. Studying is the most important part of this..coupled with trial and error. And never stop asking questions. |
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