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loud music vs your ear (pg. 2)
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| richg101 |
| quote: | Originally posted by raveanddie
Hi Guys,
I have been meaning to ask you guys. How do you deal with a loud clubbing enviroment whilst trying to beatmatch with only one ear using your headphone.
i mix at home its fine, but when i try it at the club .. its hard to beatmatch. the music is playing so loud. so am i supposed to increase the loudness on the headphone? wont that kill your ear?
usually i only listen to the cue track using my left ear, and the live track playing out loud. Some people say that one should listen to both the LIVE and the CUE track on the headphone so its easy to beatmatch. i mean if you think about it, this will make it even harder. (incoming&live vs live)
i asked my dj friend on this question. he said that there is a trick to it .. but he refuses to tell me. i know he is just plain old selfish.
so hoping you guys can help me out. how do the big djs do it? |
its harder to mix in loud events and is probably best to use both sides of the phones while adjusting pitch etc.. then alternate using one side while actually mixing..
if your ears seem to hurt of ring ....
id would spend some money on some decent musicians earplugs if i were you. i have this problem and its because your hearing is probably more sensitive than most. they re about 100 quid and need to be moulded to fit your ears.. i left it too long and now my ears cant take more than half an hour without any protection.
search google for 'hyperacusis' and see if the symptoms match yours... if so then definately get some pro earplugs. if not then i still suggest buying some before you end up triggering hyperacusis or tinnitus through too much loud noise. |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
there is no set way to dj
the only good way to dj is the way that YOU find the most comfortable and what works for YOU
everyone is different and approaches things different
this is why we are constantly telling people to practice and try new things here and there
it's the only way to develop your own style and learn what's right for YOU
i hate when people tell people that you shouldn't do this or you shouldn't do that, if you can make the beats go together and it sounds good, who cares how you do it, just that you're doing it |
Thanks for The advice mate, I know what you mean about the way to DJ, I just though maybe in a loud environment, using your both headphones would be impossible because I see all Dj's using the 1 side.
Also Wich one would be better for my ear?, using the 1 ear method or using both headphones.
What are Monitors?, I see people tlakign about this and realte this with headphones, but I doī't understand exactly, beacuse I have Traktor, and I have never used the monitor (Button or play the track there), I just used the Mic and switch from cue to PGM, untill I'm comfortable.
Thanks for THe Reply again, not only to you, also for everyone that hae replied here
:tongue3
Thank You... |
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| trancecadet |
I see you mix with traktor too :)
monitors are just a posh name for speakers. You hear the same from your heaphones as you would on monitors if you have them in a setup. You basically use em so you can beatmatch properly. If you was playing out without monitors and using 1 ear for cueing you'd be beatmatching to a delayed sound. speakers would be facing away from you towards the crowd so the sound has to go forward then back to you causing echo and your mixing would sound aweful.
hope that makes some sense :) |
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| Aquarian |
| a monitor is just a speaker you keep close to you and facing you so that you can rely on that for mixing rather than the room sound that's already been bouncing on the walls before it reaches your ear. |
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| Pinokio |
Ohh I see, but I have aquestion, if you have monitors in a CLub, and you listent here the same as the headphones, people would listen to the trainwreck while you are beatmatching,
I donīt understand exactly how does that works.
Thanks for the answers =) |
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| raveanddie |
so guys ... back to the question that started in this thread,
what you guys are saying is that, i should just get a earplug and blast the music in my headphones to almost the same volume as the live music to mix? |
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| FirstBorn |
Buy professional earplugs NOW! They're expensive but will be an essential investment, especially if you're playing out in clubs and you want to preserve your hearing in later life.
To allay your fears about earplugs hindering your mixing abilities, I always mix while wearing my ER15's, even during practice sessions at home. Professional earplugs limit sound across all frequencies; I find it much, much easier to mix with them in as it allows you pick out sounds in your headphones which would otherwise be lost amongst all that thundering bass which assaults your ears when you're not wearing earplugs.
Mixing with earplugs takes a little getting used to (it took me a couple of hours of practice at home prior to gigs before I felt comfortable mixing with them at a club) but they've proven to be a godsend. Get them now! :) |
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| raveanddie |
| quote: | Originally posted by FirstBorn
Buy professional earplugs NOW! They're expensive but will be an essential investment, especially if you're playing out in clubs and you want to preserve your hearing in later life.
To allay your fears about earplugs hindering your mixing abilities, I always mix while wearing my ER15's, even during practice sessions at home. Professional earplugs limit sound across all frequencies; I find it much, much easier to mix with them in as it allows you pick out sounds in your headphones which would otherwise be lost amongst all that thundering bass which assaults your ears when you're not wearing earplugs.
Mixing with earplugs takes a little getting used to (it took me a couple of hours of practice at home prior to gigs before I felt comfortable mixing with them at a club) but they've proven to be a godsend. Get them now! :) |
guess you are right... but i am in singapore.... i dont know where to get those professional earplugs. no one here makes those custom ones |
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| richg101 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pinokio
Ohh I see, but I have aquestion, if you have monitors in a CLub, and you listent here the same as the headphones, people would listen to the trainwreck while you are beatmatching,
I donīt understand exactly how does that works.
Thanks for the answers =) |
generally the monitor plays the same as what the main rig plays only it is usually a more hifi sound(on a good setup). its just the same as mixing at home but at higher volumes. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pinokio
Ohh I see, but I have aquestion, if you have monitors in a CLub, and you listent here the same as the headphones, people would listen to the trainwreck while you are beatmatching,
I donīt understand exactly how does that works.
Thanks for the answers =) |
The way people use monitors is they listen to the monitors with one ear so they can hear what is playing out live over the house sound system, and listen to the tracks they are cueing in the other ear using their headphones. The reason why you see most DJs using one ear in the headphone instead of two is probably because they find that the best way to mix. It's just really a matter of personal choice. I used to mix in my headphones, but after forcing myself to learn the one ear method I started throwing tighter mixes. |
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| saryn |
| the times i have played out ive been able to adjust my monitors. was a jbl eon 15" g2. i put it on a chair that kept it low to where if i bent down i got loud, full sound. and if i stood up it was less (not sure how i got that..) then use 1 ear but with both tracks playing in the headphones. if you have a crossfader on the pfl, set it to about 3/4 cued track. then i can use both ears in the phones if i need clearer sound to check if its right. |
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| Abhay |
Hmmmz.....
those custom earplugs are really expensive...
is there like a cheaper version i can buy? It doesn't have to drop the music right down. I mean 10dB isolation is enough.
U know when ppl are really enjoying themselves. They want the music to be louder and louder. THe last time i played out, I was clipping my mixer. I couldn't believe it. The sound system was reasonably loud, but ppl still want louder. THey even said, " i don't want to be able to yell at someone, and have them hear me". I guess that's why clubs are so damned loud. lol.
I really wanna protect my ears here, is there a cheaper option for me? I think just getting headphones with awesome isolation ain't good enough, simply because ur loosing options on how u mix (i mix both ways).
I mean those really cheap $20-$30 standard (but the more expensive ones) earplugs will have some benifit won't they? the most important thing is that the bass, and mids come through in my ear. |
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