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how long is it before the internet is "policed" like the rest of society?
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| NuERA |
How long do you think the wild ways of the internet will remain? If you think about it there isn't that much control over what someone does on the internet. As much as the internet is still used for legitimate business, you can still gamble, look at porn, and download pretty much copyrighted music, television shows, software, movies, ect. Do you think that one day internet culture will be monitored to the extent of our day to day lives? Picture what it would be like if downloading a copyrighted mp3 was treated the same way as if you walked out of HMV with a cd. Spamming could be the equivalent of littering. Or how about a $50 ticket for looking at porn underage--how many poor teenage boys would go down? :p
Or do you think that will technology always be one step ahead of the law? |
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| MidnightClubber |
The internet is being policed as we speak, but it's a war of the nerds. Think about it, constant anti-spam, anti-download, and security featuers to keep minors out of certain sites are always being implemented, upgraded and maintained, but with millions of users there will always be loopholes through any internet-based system.
That's why for instance they always release updates for anti-viruses, no matter what kind of measures they have set up to prevent trojans and intrusions onto computers there will always be the bored surfer itching to try out a new line of code he added to the latest virus.
In regards to downloading music, bitorrent, irc, and ftp's are near impossible to shut down. The only way they'll prevent mp3's from being leaked onto the internet they need to prevent people from ripping the cds. But to do so they need to stop making programs that allow you to do so, and any person with some computer programming knowledge can do that...
Complete restraint over the internet? Probably never, but if it does happen its for our children's children to worry about. For now free axs to 1337 s3>< etc.etc. |
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| VERTiG0 |
| I'm already a member of the Internet Police |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
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Hey! Easy there cowboy... calm down or ELSE! ;)
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| Tygon |
I think one of the main things to consider with policing the internet is the fact that laws can only apply to servers/computers in the country where it resides. If someone is conducting illegal activity in one country, it may have different penalties than another (if any). For example, Sealand is a self standing country off the coast of UK which has claimed to be a data and content haven. After 9-11, they announced that the operation would block initiatives "contrary to international custom and practice." This includes Child Pornography and malicious hacking. However, there are still countless laws and regulations that do not apply if your information is stored on or activity runs through Sealand.
In North America our privacy is certainly shrinking. MP3s are a good example of this.... where people can legally search your PRIVATE space based on traffic monitored. In most cases, I think it's necessary for breaking a child porn ring or something... but then again where does it stop?? Who decides the limits of privacy? And THEN... who polices the police?
I think the only way that it can truly be policed and monitored is if the world unites and is ordered by one government. Don't skoff at the idea... it's been prophesized as the "end of times"... but then again... who wants to believe such religious drivell? Let's just have fun and not worry about scary (yet VERY possible) stuff like THAT :p |
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| amb_ |
| Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
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| rabbitjoker |
He's already policing you... |
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| Crazy Serb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
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Buhahahaa...
Now, as far as ISPs go... is Rogers able to monitor the EXACT files you are transfering through their network? And are they able to access your computer to "inspect" the files that you are storing on it? Maybe, maybe not... but as far as my router's firewall goes, they can kiss my ass.
(not that I have something to hide, but in case I did, I'm set) |
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| nusty |
actually a lot of countries do police the internet VERY heavily. There was recently a article in wired magazine that listed how certain countries are blocking up 90% of the internet from even entering thier country.
I'll see if I can find it online.
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edit: Ok I just check wired magazines archieves and it hasn't been released there yet... I guess it was only in Septembers issue.
I pulled out the article and Saudi Arabia was actually the most censor crazy while China was the most prosecution crazy over breaking the law.
Saudi blocks 100% of porn sites, 92% of Gambling, 85% of drug related sites, 67% anonymizers, humour 37% and political events at 23% all at the national level.
China by comparison only blocks 39% of porn sites, but they monitor cyber cafes, requires all sites to be registered, filter all content at the national level and have strict disiplinary actions against offenders. Offenders in China of political speech even include the amnesty.org and news.bbc.co.uk! Whereas Singapore blocks 0% and has no prosecution proceedures.
what does .cn mean? (from post below) |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by nusty
countries are blocking up 90% of the internet |
.cn |
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| Jayx1 |
canada also restricts free speach on the internet. Anything that the government deems as "hateful" can be prosecuted. Im sure many people in this very forum have broken canadian speech laws with some of their off colour humour and possibly racist implications. Punishment for this is a long long time in jail.
Yes its that easy!
Also Canada restricts freedom of speech in other ways. On election night it is illegal to post election results from atlantic canada in british columbia until the polls close in british columbia for example. Punishment for this can be jail.
Also there are thousands of "media bans" every year imposed on canadians with punishments that include jail time. This is why we had to go to american websites last spring to find out exactly how much our government was stealing from us! Even posting the name of the website in the US that told us information about our own government was punishable by jail!
Another famous example of our restriction of speech include the bernardo trial.
as for broadcast media, the canadian government controls what we watch and listen to via the CRTC. And no they dont just monitor for swear words. They actually decide which channels we can watch or listen to. The applications are considered right down to the format. Think we will ever get a 24 hour dance music station? Probably not since "the CTRC doesnt feel there is a market for it" unless they somehow fanagle it to be an urban top 40 station and then play dance. I know many dance music artists that are refused grants from the canadian government unless they show their category as "urban"
scary eh?
Welcome to Canada
Dont think we are such a free country because we really arent. |
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