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Interesting video on Fast Food... (pg. 2)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by bass drive
I think they do it for reasons like promotion and tax cuts. |
I fail to see how their motivation is important here - the fact is, they still contribute several orders of magnitude more to those causes than the protesters do with their bitching. It's called "market forces".
| quote: | | junk food culture should be ELIMINATED :whip: :D |
Any business can be eliminated by consumers exercising their market power. There is no need for propaganda and/or oppressive laws.
You don't seriously believe that McDonald's business survives on tweenies alone, do you? Even so, all parents have to do in order to stop their kids from eating that crap is to not give them money. I had a $5 allowance when I was that age, and damned if I was going to waste any of it on fast food. |
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| bass drive |
I think it comes down to how bad/good you think this industry is harmful/useful to society as a whole. (which is hard to measure I guess).
btw Digi
do you know where I can find age stats of Mcdonalds consumers? (if such thing exists) |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by bass drive
I think it comes down to how bad/good you think this industry is harmful/useful to society as a whole. |
Don't you think that should be for society as a whole (i.e. the consumers) to decide?
The "think of the children" argument doesn't work here because that money comes from the parents, which makes them the consumers rather than their kids; and if someone is old enough to have a job and be earning their own income then they are certainly old enough to be responsible for their own diet.
If consumers believe a product is harmful, they won't buy it, and the manufacturer will either have to take it off the market or improve its safety. It's happened many times in the past with cars (for example). You can't blame everything on marketing - people still smoke and take drugs despite the HUGE amount of anti-smoking and anti-drug propaganda on TV and everywhere else.
| quote: | | do you know where I can find age stats of Mcdonalds consumers? (if such thing exists) |
You might be able to find some general "fast food" related statistics on StatsCan, although I doubt that statistics are available relating specifically to McDonald's (I know I never get asked for my age when I order a quarter pounder... lol) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by bass drive
I think it comes down to how bad/good you think this industry is harmful/useful to society as a whole. (which is hard to measure I guess).
btw Digi
do you know where I can find age stats of Mcdonalds consumers? (if such thing exists) |
fast food and junk food is good for society because society enjoys it.
People imposing their beliefs on others however is NOT good for society.
Ill eat my junk food and u can eat your granola crackers and everyone will be happy :) |
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| Fir3start3r |
It basically comes down to an informed consumer choice; Caveat emptor.
The defendants were spinning that McDonald's practices of "pester marketing" towards children (that is; bombing the children with ad after ad, telling them McDonalds is good) causes children to make family meal decisions.
What a crock.
That decision (as Digi has already suggested) is the responsibility of the parent(s) to supersede that of their child(ren).
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| Crazy Serb |
Well, very often parents give into that, just to shut their kids up, and since the parents are often not educated enough about the quality of the food either, they don't care that much. As long as their kid is happy...
Now, imagine growing up like that (like Jay did, I presume :D)... being fed McD's all the time... it's not easy to get off of it once you grow up. |
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| JB1 |
There are going to be & will always be differences in viewing a single issue in our society. Either we are for or against that, which is also very acceptional in various matters.
Some view a certain issue only on the surface and some view it skin deep. We cannot force our beilefs onto others but we can educate them by expanding their knowledge and let them to understand there are two sides of a story. The final decision is for that individual to make.
Do I believe fast food cooprations like McDonalds or any cooprations in this world are effecting our today's society? My answer to that is, yes I believe there have been many unethnical conducts performed by these cooprations. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Crazy Serb
Well, very often parents give into that, just to shut their kids up, and since the parents are often not educated enough about the quality of the food either, they don't care that much. As long as their kid is happy... |
Parents are still responsible for their children no matter how lazy, uninformed or downright stupid those parents may be. It's not the responsibility (or the right) of government to tell society how to raise its children.
| quote: | | Now, imagine growing up like that (like Jay did, I presume :D)... being fed McD's all the time... it's not easy to get off of it once you grow up. |
It's not that easy to get off of drugs, alcohol, smoking or coffee either, but people do it every day. Those people have every right to resent their parents for taking unhealthy shortcuts in the process of raising them, but it's neither the fault of the corporations nor society at large that their parents did that.
| quote: | Originally posted by JB1
We cannot force our beilefs onto others but we can educate them by expanding their knowledge and let them to understand there are two sides of a story. The final decision is for that individual to make. |
Exactly! That is why, even though I think "videos" like this are a crock, I will always defend people's freedom to make them.
McDonald's and other fast food *is* very unhealthy when eaten regularly and people should know that. Unfortunately, that message is hard to take seriously coming from liberals who are completely polarized on the issue against corporations in general.
| quote: | | Do I believe fast food cooprations like McDonalds or any cooprations in this world are effecting our today's society? My answer to that is, yes I believe there have been many unethnical conducts performed by these cooprations. |
Such as? |
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| cyper |
I feel like eating Taco Bell now..
Or better yet, some good expensive quiznos subs! Gotta love that toasted chemically enhanced !! |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by JB1
My answer to that is, yes I believe there have been many unethnical conducts performed by these cooprations. |
But that was the whole point of the video.
It's one thing to believe based on personal hunches; it's an entirely different matter when someones handing out pamphlets in what looks like conjecture to the corportion being targeted, hence the libel suit. |
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| Euphorica |
similar topic...what do you folks think about the movie SUPERSIZE ME?
It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that most of todays fast food is NOT healthy. Problem is most people who regularly eat it are addicted to it pretty much. I had a little phase where I ate it quite a bit and youd be surprised what a craving you get for that junk.
and most are too lazy to try and fight it off/choose not to think about how bad it is for them. |
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| bass drive |
the food being fattening is not the only concern, but also the methods they use to maximize effiecincy (for them)
I believe they put some chemicals in frying oil to make it last longer (which is debated to be cancerous). the vegtebales are preserved in some weird manners (alot of genetically modified crap I assume also).
I think I read here by someone who worked at Mcdonalds that said; the onions they use are actually in poweder form before it's cooked.
the meat, I don't want to go there...
btw, I didn't watch the movie or supersize me... |
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