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20 amazing facts about voting in the USA
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AnotherWay83
Did you know....
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evotin...2804landes.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold



2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evotin...2804landes.html



3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/ht...te_company.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evotin...2804landes.html



4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004...ain632436.shtml

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886



5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/commenta.../03/03_200.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evotin...04fitrakis.html



6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modul...=article&sid=26

http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php



7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm

http://theindependent.com/stories/0...ew_hagel27.html



8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evotin...2804landes.html



9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm

http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/04...es/pfindex.html



10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm

http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm



11. Diebold is based in Ohio.
http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm



12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as consultants and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml



13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of Global Election Systems when it was bought by Diebold. Even though he had been convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a consultant by Diebold and was largely responsible for programming the optical scanning software now used in most of the United States.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00191.htm
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf



14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf



15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.
http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/20...loc_elexoh.html



16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here: http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov.)
http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190



17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004...ain632436.shtml



18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html

http://www.yuricareport.com/Electio...esBushIsOut.htm

http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html

http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.p...article&sid=950

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm



19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tall...cal/7628725.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2004Oct29.html



20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
http://www.yuricareport.com/Electio...esBushIsOut.htm

http://www.computerworld.com/govern...1,97614,00.html

http://www.americanfreepress.net/ht..._thousands.html

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html

http://uscountvotes.org/
tathi
normally i would immediately discount this thread as a conspiracy theory, but now nothing suprises me anymore - especially considering the 2001 elections :nervous: - so it's best to keep an open mind ;)
Sunsnail
wow

just wow. I had no idea
Lepanto
wow how interesting :rolleyes:
Fir3start3r
Flashback indeed...
Shakka
Good to see the conspiracy is alive and well. Hell, with this crucial information, it's impossible to understand how Bush 41 was handed such a sound defeat in 1992, or how Clinton won a 2nd term so convincingly.:rolleyes:

Go stick your head back in the sand. I'll let you know when it's all clear...
ogvh5150
There is no two party system.

Just different shift managers at the same slaughterhouse.

For anyone to think otherwise would be diluting themselves.


I wonder what would happen if NO ONE voted....
::TranceVanDyk::
second american civil war is on the way.
AnotherWay83
quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Good to see the conspiracy is alive and well. Hell, with this crucial information, it's impossible to understand how Bush 41 was handed such a sound defeat in 1992, or how Clinton won a 2nd term so convincingly.:rolleyes:

Go stick your head back in the sand. I'll let you know when it's all clear...


oh trust me, everybody knows whose really got their head in the sand :rolleyes:

...why don't you actually provide some evidence refuting the facts that i've posted?
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
oh trust me, everybody knows whose really got their head in the sand :rolleyes:

...why don't you actually provide some evidence refuting the facts that i've posted?


Probably because he can't. :stongue: ;)

ogvh5150
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Probably because he can't. :stongue: ;)


Just like the conspiracy theory that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. And as with any conspiracy theory there are the nuts. The nuts that swore he had them WMD's stashed somewhere.

But here we are, 2000+ in country deaths of GI's over a conspiracy theory.

And they call us nuts.
DJ Shibby
A 107 page paper was recently released that concluded that the election may have been tipped by illegal electonic papertrail-less voting machines.
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