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searching vst phase vocoder real time pitch shifter
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| DJ Subnautic |
| have you got a real time pitch shifter in vst, that works with the phaze vocoder algorithm? could you recommend me one? |
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| chillsonic |
| i don't know about all of that vocoding stuff, but as far as pitch shifting in real time, people seem to like antares auto-tune. it sounds very good. |
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| DigiNut |
I think he's talking about the vocoding effect used by artists like Cher and Eiffel 65, which doesn't really sound like a vocoder, more like a strange robotic type of pitch shift.
I *think* that's the Orange Vocoder, but I'm not positive. If it is the Orange Vocoder, it may be very difficult for you to find anything comparable. |
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| fr0st |
| Cher = autotune.... |
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| DJ Subnautic |
no, its more a very good real time pitch shifter, traktor dj studio works with this algo, and it delivers a very good quality pitch shifting. i just need a good real time pitch shifter and i thoudht that the phase voc is the best.
thanks very mutch for the help! |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
Cher = autotune.... |
No... Cher = Vocoder
Cher's vocals sound vocoded/pitch shifted because they were sent through a vocoder type guitar pedal (the Digitech Talker) with the other signal being a Nord synth.
Her vocals were auto-tuned at the time of recording, but the effect itself was a vocoder after the fact.
As for the original question, yeah, Antares Auto-tune as the person up there stated. I think they're on version 4 now. |
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
No... Cher = Vocoder
Cher's vocals sound vocoded/pitch shifted because they were sent through a vocoder type guitar pedal (the Digitech Talker) with the other signal being a Nord synth.
Her vocals were auto-tuned at the time of recording, but the effect itself was a vocoder after the fact.
As for the original question, yeah, Antares Auto-tune as the person up there stated. I think they're on version 4 now. |
as always someone is sooo quick to post a reply to point out someone is wrong, when infact they know little of the process, or are just repeating what they read on some jackasses sight... Im sure your either repeated what you have heard or what you read maybe at a site such as this http://createdigitalmusic.com/index...ask=view&id=979
but had you tried doing it yourself you would hear that the intonation changes are not possible with a vocoder alone
Yes a vocoder was used aswell, but to generate the initial intonation changes in the vocal a pitch shifter was used. Whether it was a eventide effects unit or autotune i can assure you some sort of pitch shifting was used the processed vocal was then bussed into a vocoder and the original signal along with the vocoded signal were mixed accordingly.... Sure there could be other ways to do this, but my friends and i spent days trying to nail it and that was our best method.....
Now sure their may be other methods, but as i stated this is how we did it.... And pretty much achieved 100% the same sound minus her voice.. We used autotune and a older korg vocoder... |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
as always someone is sooo quick to post a reply to point out someone is wrong, when infact they know little of the process, or are just repeating what they read on some jackasses sight... Im sure your either repeated what you have heard or what you read maybe at a site such as this http://createdigitalmusic.com/index...ask=view&id=979
but had you tried doing it yourself you would hear that the intonation changes are not possible with a vocoder alone
Yes a vocoder was used aswell, but to generate the initial intonation changes in the vocal a pitch shifter was used. Whether it was a eventide effects unit or autotune i can assure you some sort of pitch shifting was used the processed vocal was then bussed into a vocoder and the original signal along with the vocoded signal were mixed accordingly.... Sure there could be other ways to do this, but my friends and i spent days trying to nail it and that was our best method.....
Now sure their may be other methods, but as i stated this is how we did it.... And pretty much achieved 100% the same sound minus her voice.. We used autotune and a older korg vocoder... |
Like I said... an autotune is used on almost all professional vocal samples.
What sets Cher's apart is the vocoded bit, made unique by the use of specific key changes to the midi in cubase on the nord synth during the chorus.
I'm sorry that you took offense to my post, but the simple fact of the matter is that misinformation shouldn't be spread. I was clearing up said misinformation. Simple as that. I don't know what else to tell you really...
Good luck and no harm intended. |
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