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bpm counters ~ to use or not to use (pg. 2)
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RoBDaWG
I started spinning about 6 or 7 years ago when I met a friend of mine who spun and I was instantly hooked. It took me FOREVER to even figure out the concept of beatmatching. I tried a ton of stupid counters and charts and tools, etc to help you mix better and nothing ever worked.

I would always tell him "dude i tried, i tried that, i tried this, i tried that"

He gave me the best advice I've ever received in my life (well as far as DJ'ing goes) one day, and it still sticks in my head whenever I'm doing anything.

"Just use your ears"

Four simple words, but it's true. Just keep spinning, one day, out of no where, (might take years) it'll just click, you'll be ing around in your room, spinning some records, and all of a sudden, you'll just get it. It's weird, but that's just what happens.

Even now when I'm spinning out someplace, or mixing a cd, or whatever, and I get nervous, or out of the zone for a minute, and freak out, and i'm like oh oh , gonna trainwreck, gonna trainwreck, and I start watching the lights on the mixer, taking my headphones off, checking the bpm's, freaking out, I just close my eyes and hear his voice in my head telling me to just use my ears... and it works, everytime.
RoBDaWG
Oh one more thing... I don't know what your level of DJ'ing is... but seriously, try getting a little buzzed then spinning. Not DRUNK, or you'll suck, but have a drink or two, just so you feel nice, and give it a shot, you're more relaxed, your mind tends to get lost in the music more. I'm always better when I'm a lil buzzed
Tony Morello
yeah, one day it will all of a sudden just click, then it's a matter of fine tuning your skills
DJ RJT
Yeah, I used to use (Well, I still do a bit) the BPM counters on my CDJ's as a rough guide, but in general they're FAR too inaccurate, and in a lot of ways I think hurt my ability to beatmatch properly as I'd learned to on vinyl... This was actually the only downside I felt when I traded in the Techs for CDJ's...
DJ_Ikronix
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Originally posted by RoBDaWG
Oh one more thing... I don't know what your level of DJ'ing is... but seriously, try getting a little buzzed then spinning. Not DRUNK, or you'll suck, but have a drink or two, just so you feel nice, and give it a shot, you're more relaxed, your mind tends to get lost in the music more. I'm always better when I'm a lil buzzed


I have to disagree, here. In my experience people who drink just a little bit of alcohol to "get in the mood" merely think they're doing better. You can definitely hear a loss of fine control when people do this.
ZeJayMan
Probably better with a bit of the old uncle smokey, if you enjoy that sort of thing...
RoBDaWG
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Originally posted by DJ_Ikronix
I have to disagree, here. In my experience people who drink just a little bit of alcohol to "get in the mood" merely think they're doing better. You can definitely hear a loss of fine control when people do this.


Ah I'm sure it depends on the person ya know, for me it helps, I'm sure for some people it probably impairs them
Euphorica
quote:
Originally posted by RoBDaWG
I started spinning about 6 or 7 years ago when I met a friend of mine who spun and I was instantly hooked. It took me FOREVER to even figure out the concept of beatmatching. I tried a ton of stupid counters and charts and tools, etc to help you mix better and nothing ever worked.

I would always tell him "dude i tried, i tried that, i tried this, i tried that"

He gave me the best advice I've ever received in my life (well as far as DJ'ing goes) one day, and it still sticks in my head whenever I'm doing anything.

"Just use your ears"

Four simple words, but it's true. Just keep spinning, one day, out of no where, (might take years) it'll just click, you'll be ing around in your room, spinning some records, and all of a sudden, you'll just get it. It's weird, but that's just what happens.

Even now when I'm spinning out someplace, or mixing a cd, or whatever, and I get nervous, or out of the zone for a minute, and freak out, and i'm like oh oh , gonna trainwreck, gonna trainwreck, and I start watching the lights on the mixer, taking my headphones off, checking the bpm's, freaking out, I just close my eyes and hear his voice in my head telling me to just use my ears... and it works, everytime.



lol the last part could be a jean claude van damme movie. ;):crazy:
good advice though.
Tony Morello
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Originally posted by RoBDaWG
Ah I'm sure it depends on the person ya know, for me it helps, I'm sure for some people it probably impairs them


works for me too
i'm not talking about getting sloshed while playing, but having a couple before going on/while playing to loosen up and get feeling the music
dinoXpress
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Originally posted by DJ_Ikronix
I have to disagree, here. In my experience people who drink just a little bit of alcohol to "get in the mood" merely think they're doing better. You can definitely hear a loss of fine control when people do this.


Hehe. Funny you should say this..

When recording my November Promo (Click Sig) I had a goood couple of drinks before recording it and if you listen, it came out fairly well.. i put most of the same tracks together earlier in the day with little success.. It all clicked. :p


That being said.. when i play out, i dont drink at all.. Tony knows this, haha, i got ed up after the gig! hahaha!

Tony Morello
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Originally posted by dinoXpress
Hehe. Funny you should say this..

When recording my November Promo (Click Sig) I had a goood couple of drinks before recording it and if you listen, it came out fairly well.. i put most of the same tracks together earlier in the day with little success.. It all clicked. :p


That being said.. when i play out, i dont drink at all.. Tony knows this, haha, i got ed up after the gig! hahaha!


bwhahaha

that night was a gooder... i think... i vaguely remember smoking a joint in the parking lot after you played
ZeJayMan
Lovely
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