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what is NOT uplifting trance?
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| Subtle |
ok, so ive noticed that several boards are flooded with uplifting trance mixes, uplifting track requests, uplifting trance sets, uplifting vocals.. etc.etc.
its beginning to really go into my nerves..
so im asking simply,
WHAT IS NOT UPLIFTING TRANCE and simply TRANCE ?
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| Demoted |
To me, uplifting trance is basically the same trance with a huge breakdown, but the melody is more happy and meant to put you in a good mood.
Best example from this year of uplifting trance Sayla - Majestic (AvP remix)
whereas regular trance is more driving and it can have a huge breakdown, but it's more intended for dancing than just feeling uplifted liiiike... Carte Blanche.
That's just me though. |
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| Subtle |
| dont u feel uplifting trance just as well could be called cheese.. most of the tracks labeled as uplifting trance mostly has a easy to like melody, huge breakdown, and other clichè elements.. |
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| Siatrovouni |
dunno really...
I always consired uplifting trance tracks like The Quest - C Sharp
I don't care anyway. |
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| Demoted |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
dont u feel uplifting trance just as well could be called cheese.. most of the tracks labeled as uplifting trance mostly has a easy to like melody, huge breakdown, and other clichè elements.. |
It walks a very fine line usually. A lot of it is cheese and the melody just becomes annoying. If vocals become an intregal part of the song then it just makes it that much easier to be labelled as such. That's a hard area to hit on actually. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Uplifting trance is not a sub-genre in the same way that epic trance or acid house are. It simply refers to trance that is uplfiting in tone and vibe. In the same way that epic trance can be dark and moody, even very subdued trance can be uplifting. I think "uplifting" came into use in the late 90s, as the focus on trance was shifted towards the euphoric. It was all about rushing emotions and ravers crying. I think that has died out a lot now due to over-doses of happiness, and trance is slowly getting into "dark and moody".
But anyway. It isn't a specific genre, just a description. |
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| Numidia |
I think of it this way: Over the last couple of years there's been a rise in that "new sound" of trance. I think you all know what I mean. It sounds proggier, instead of a saw lead there's pulse/sin stabs with a load of delay and the melodies are nice but they're not as "epic" as the melodies in the '99 sound of trance. As well, the basslines aren't as energetic as before, but they're deeper, proggier sounding. A usual Armin set, for instance, is full of these types of tracks.
Now I'm not saying one style is better than the other, or anything like that. But here's the problem with this. This "new sound" is just referred to as "Trance" even though it's clearly different from the form of trance we originally know. The point being that people who listen or prefer the original form of trance have to refer to it differently so people don't think they mean this new proggier sound. That's why I think people (at least i do) refer to "uplifting/epic" when talking about the original style, so people don't get confused with the new style... Anyways I hope this makes sense but if it doesn't just ignore it i guess. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Uplifting trance is not a sub-genre in the same way that epic trance or acid house are. It simply refers to trance that is uplfiting in tone and vibe. In the same way that epic trance can be dark and moody, even very subdued trance can be uplifting. I think "uplifting" came into use in the late 90s, as the focus on trance was shifted towards the euphoric. It was all about rushing emotions and ravers crying. I think that has died out a lot now due to over-doses of happiness, and trance is slowly getting into "dark and moody".
But anyway. It isn't a specific genre, just a description. |
I agree with what u say..
but i think everybody describes simple plain trance as uplifting when in reality its simply a good trance track they like..
just cause u like a track doesnt mean u can call it uplifting.. i find the word "Uplifting" highly abused.. and should only be used to describe certain types of tracks, which can either be dark and moody, or with an uplifting spirit to them.. not the 3 minute breakdown trance
but it seems like now, its like every trance track which can be considered melodic is called uplifting..
I think trance itself as a genre is supposed to be uplifting, and that calling something for uplifting trance is the same as calling Pop for, popular Pop.. i mean, pop is pop and trance is trance.. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Numidia
I think of it this way: Over the last couple of years there's been a rise in that "new sound" of trance. I think you all know what I mean. It sounds proggier, instead of a saw lead there's pulse/sin stabs with a load of delay and the melodies are nice but they're not as "epic" as the melodies in the '99 sound of trance. As well, the basslines aren't as energetic as before, but they're deeper, proggier sounding. A usual Armin set, for instance, is full of these types of tracks.
Now I'm not saying one style is better than the other, or anything like that. But here's the problem with this. This "new sound" is just referred to as "Trance" even though it's clearly different from the form of trance we originally know. The point being that people who listen or prefer the original form of trance have to refer to it differently so people don't think they mean this new proggier sound. That's why I think people (at least i do) refer to "uplifting/epic" when talking about the original style, so people don't get confused with the new style... Anyways I hope this makes sense but if it doesn't just ignore it i guess. |
I understand ur point, good point.. but maybe that older style should be described as classic trance or epic trance, that makes more sense..
but as for uplifting, i think its a wrong description, im listening to Nick Warren 28 - Shangai right now, i find that uplifting, but it doesnt make it right to say that its uplifting breaks/prog or trance.. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
I think trance itself as a genre is supposed to be uplifting, and that calling something for uplifting trance is the same as calling Pop for, popular Pop.. i mean, pop is pop and trance is trance.. |
Not really. Trance hasn't always been about uplfiting vibes, which is why people make the distinction in the first place. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not really. Trance hasn't always been about uplfiting vibes |
what has it been about then ? |
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