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im doing my christmas shopping like i did it this year for now on (pg. 6)
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
well first theres a finders fee which is 100 bucks. let me explain this finders fee for u. your basically paying for me to dress up in a ski mask and gloves and follow a grand mother and a young child (usually 8-13 years of age) who just bought an xBox from Best buy to their car, lurking behind street lamps like a ninja. then theres a detection fee. Basically your paying here for me to crawl inside their car undetected like a ninja and hide in the back seat. then theres the shipping and handling. This ur basically paying me to grab the grandmother by the face while shes driving and use the bannana in my pocket as a fake gun. Then of course theres a gaging and tieing up fee an elbow smash fee a ransom note fee. then i take the stolen presents and deliver them to your house where u get to play X box 360 at the unbelievable low price of 250 dollars.
why shop till u drop when u can steal and eat veal. |
that's $300 eric, let's do this!
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| TrinityGirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
if you think that this is the way these guys "steal" this stuff, you are dead wrong.
these items are not used and stolen. they are stolen directly from the companies during shipping or whatever. it's good because these companies are ripping us off at every step. it's good to get them back sometimes. it's actually pretty hard to find something stolen from a house unless you are a criminal like them. |
sure... make urself feel justified that ur not doing anything wrong and explain it this way if u wanna feel better about giving someone stolen gifts. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
it's good because these companies are ripping us off at every step. |
I wouldn't really say it's "good" - perhaps not quite as bad as robbing someone's house. If you feel that a company is ripping you off then you are fully entitled not to buy their product! |
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| 5hiftn6ears |
| quote: | Originally posted by Engine9
hook up some cologne! |
www.ggf.ca ...this guy is the chepest around and legit..
example...diesel white/red/green...$10
dolce & gabanna(sp?) big bottle....$35
plus they carry every kind known to man as well as stuff you can only get over seas |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I wouldn't really say it's "good" - perhaps not quite as bad as robbing someone's house. If you feel that a company is ripping you off then you are fully entitled not to buy their product! |
ha ha. and i don't. i guess i didn't word myself properly, it's not good but it definitely is not as bad as robbing an individual person. |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| Is it better or worse than piracy? I wanna know which level of hell I'm gonna go to. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears
www.ggf.ca ...this guy is the chepest around and legit..
example...diesel white/red/green...$10
dolce & gabanna(sp?) big bottle....$35
plus they carry every kind known to man as well as stuff you can only get over seas |
I don't know... I'm a little nervous about buying from someone named the "Godfather". Somehow I get the feeling that after I buy 10 items I'll have guys in suits outside my door with machine guns. :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Is it better or worse than piracy? I wanna know which level of hell I'm gonna go to. |
It's probably about the same actually - we're talking about products that are priced around the same as software and music (when you take volume into account), and ultimately it's the distributor who loses the most money. |
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| ChocolateTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
if you think that this is the way these guys "steal" this stuff, you are dead wrong.
these items are not used and stolen. they are stolen directly from the companies during shipping or whatever. it's good because these companies are ripping us off at every step. it's good to get them back sometimes. it's actually pretty hard to find something stolen from a house unless you are a criminal like them. |
1) what's the difference between stealing "directly from the companies during shipping or whatever" and following a grandmother and a young child to their car, etc? or going down people's chimneys dressed up as santa, etc? either way it's stealing.
2) BUSINESS 101: people who are clueless about how companies make profit tend to believe that all businesses are "evil" and out to rip them ordinary people off. THIS IS NOT TRUE. These companies don't steal the products they sell. they either manufacture them (or if they are retailers) they buy them off other manufacturers. there are a lot of manufacturing costs that goes into making a product. for example, raw material, labour, overhead (utilities or insurance premiums that they pay to the oh so evil insurance companies). after deducting all these costs from the revenues they are left with a gross profit from which they deduct other administrative costs (like advertising) and corporate taxes that they must pay to the, once again, evil governments to arrive at a net income which they usually distribute to their shareholders!! I don't understand howwww they could be ripping their customers off "every step" of the way?
The prices that they charge for their products are calculated to cover all these costs and to leave THE COMPANY with a fair profit margin. It doesn't go directly into the pockets of the executives. I agree that "some" corporate executives are more ethical than others but they are not all "criminals," if they are who you were referring to as criminals in that last sentence.
Also, the costs of the stuff that people steal from the companies during shipping or in the store (called shrinkage) is taken into account when calculating what price to charge for their products. so if you feel that you are paying too much for something, keep in mind that endorsing such acts is only gonna cost you, the customes, more in the end AND you are not "getting them back" after all.
I'm not arguing whether or not the act of stealing is wrong. That's an ethical issue that is not worth arguing about because it usually leads to nowhere. whether stealing from individuals is more "bad" than stealing from a large corporation is also difficult to logically explain and although stealing a bottle of cologne from the bay will probably not have much of an effect on the business as a whole, imagine what would happen if we all decided to steal a bottle each thinking it wouldn't have much of an effect on any individual in particular. |
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| DigiNut |
^ Hey, you don't have to convince me that corporations aren't inherently evil - I'm on your side. It's not okay to steal from anyone, but you're obviously dealing with a much larger budget with a manufacturing company as opposed to a family and the effect of the loss will be felt much more strongly by mom and pop. I'm speaking in purely economic terms: that Xbox 360 represents a much larger chunk of the family's income than the business's income.
Stealing from a manufacturer/distributor vs. stealing from the family who bought it isn't an issue of "good" or "bad", it's an issue of "bad" or "worse". |
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| ChocolateTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
^ Hey, you don't have to convince me that corporations aren't inherently evil - I'm on your side. |
phew.. didn't wanna have diginut on the opposing side... haha jk.. i know you are one hell of a debater but i can take you any day ;).. i just don't think i have ever disagreed with you on anything.. not yet at least! |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChocolateTrance
phew.. didn't wanna have diginut on the opposing side... haha jk.. i know you are one hell of a debater but i can take you any day ;).. i just don't think i have ever disagreed with you on anything.. not yet at least! |
Yes, yes, keep playing it safe. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Is it better or worse than piracy? I wanna know which level of hell I'm gonna go to. |
equal. |
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