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cueing technique advice... (pg. 2)
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| Ryan0751 |
I would say that if you can get dead accurate with one-ear on/off, mixing in the phones in those rare no-monitor situations should be cake.
I was always mixing one-ear on/off to beatmatch, but then I was cueing in the master at the last second to make final adjustments. Of course, when I played out the first time it was rather shocking... it was nearly impossible to hear both tracks clearly in the phones.
So I've since forced myself to not cue more than one channel at a time, and with practice I've been quite pleased with how my accuracy has improved.
One other thing that has helped a lot is that I switch cue-ears back and forth. If I mix on my "right" CDJ or TT, I use my left ear in the phones. When I mixed to the "left" side, I switch. It's really helped with training your ears to listen for things at different volume levels.
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
the 600, and the xone:62 both have vertical plugs for your cans (which is kind of dumb i guess, why not make em horizontal?) and, my headphone's only flaw (i got Sony MDR 7506s, love the damn things) have straight plugs (which is kind of dumb i guess, why not make 'em L shaped, like the Sennheiser HD25s?) so i guess over time, yes, this could maybe damage it. rubber band? |
They mount the headphone plugs on the top of the mixer because it gives the club the option of rack mounting the mixer in the console. I have a pair of Stanton 2000's and they have a 45 degree angle phono connector. If you are really concerned, see if you can buy a short male-female 1/4" cable, and use that to plug into your mixer and then the headphones into that. |
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| Zild |
| The thing is every DJ should be able to do both. Some clubs the booth will be so loud there is no way you'll be able to mix in the headphones over the monitors, and in some clubs you'll have a crappy monitor and be forced to mix in the headphones. |
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| Laszlo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
The thing is every DJ should be able to do both. Some clubs the booth will be so loud there is no way you'll be able to mix in the headphones over the monitors, and in some clubs you'll have a crappy monitor and be forced to mix in the headphones. |
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| Lover Boy |
| I've only learnt the one ear method with both tracks cue'd in the headfones, I find it much easier to match the beats that way. Gonna giv the other goes a try wen i've sorted out my beatmixing properly. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lover Boy
I've only learnt the one ear method with both tracks cue'd in the headfones, I find it much easier to match the beats that way. Gonna giv the other goes a try wen i've sorted out my beatmixing properly. |
You might to try just listening to the track you're cueing if you're using the one ear method. |
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| Joost |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
You might to try just listening to the track you're cueing if you're using the one ear method. |
I've used that method since the very first time I touched my decks.. |
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| Nbrablec9 |
| I feel more comfortable with the 2 ear method, but the 1 ear method helps alot , especially if when you have an Sh*t ton of speakers next to the booth-(I hate it when that happens)! |
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| Rikki |
| quote: | Originally posted by spdandpwr
Once i was mixing in my headphones at a gig and in order for me to clearly hear the mix over the volume of the pa system I had to crank the volume on the heaphones. The dj i was doing the set with (we were mixing back and forth) was using the same headphones but the one ear one cup method and he would turn down the cue volume drastically. When you have mix in the headphones you hear for the beats to be matching with one....it's very difficult for me to explain but generally thats what happens with me is that i need a louder volume with mixing in the headphones, which could be due to bad sound isolation. in any event, the only reason why i would see more dj's djing with the one ear one cup method because it "looks cooler" and, in my case, saves your ears :toocool: |
I dont think its for the "looks cooler" effect. Back when I started DJing most mixers had cue toggles and a flick switch between cue and master. No mini cue/master crossfader to do matching in the phones. You could either punch the cues in and out quickly to see how it sounded or go the one ear to the outside world way and thats what most people did.
The first ever gig I got was in a club with no monitor speakers and the nearest speaker was about 10m away. The mixer was Peavey something or other and had no cue/master fader so you had to mix about a quarter of a second ahead of what you heard from the PA system as that was the delay. Get the mix going perfect between your one ear and the PA then flick the record foward a touch and bring it out onto the dance floor.
Thankfully those days are now gone.
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| Rikki |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joost
How on earth are you going to mix on a xone with no monitors then :conf: |
http://www.allen-heath.com/ProductT...front_panel.jpg
There is a split control at the top right of the pic, dont know if thats what people are looking for.
I've used this mixer a few times now in clubs but thankfully have had monitors to use too.
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| starboy |
| Can someone please explain the difference (in detail) between the 1 ear and the two ear method??? Im ordering my dj equipment next week and i would like to learn the most effective way to cue up and beat match... |
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| Euphorica |
being a newb I find it easier using the cue/pan on the mixer and having both cans on. Easier to hear imo, then again I cant have the music up to loud in my place :( I do make it a point to practice with one can from time to time.
IMO you should be able to do both (one can being harder imo) |
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| Ryan0751 |
One is a LOT harder... and is the way that 99% of DJ's cue and beatmatch. You almost NEVER see DJ's cueing in the phones in clubs.
| quote: | Originally posted by Euphorica
being a newb I find it easier using the cue/pan on the mixer and having both cans on. Easier to hear imo, then again I cant have the music up to loud in my place :( I do make it a point to practice with one can from time to time.
IMO you should be able to do both (one can being harder imo) |
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