Any good virtual compessors?
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Jake Benson |
Disclaimer: I might sound like a n00b, but I really have never worked with compressors. Up until 6 months ago, I worked exclusively with hardware (and recorded live onto CD....soo0o ghetto huh).
I finally got a comp and Logic Pro 7. I think my production work sounds great when it's played in the Logic program itself, and the EQ sounds just fine. But once I bounce it into mp3 and onto iTunes, it sounds completely muddy and like the high end got turned down a lot nd the bass got boosted! It shouldn't sound like this though because I compare it to other mp3s that I've DLed and they sound fine in comparison. I talked to my friend and he suggested I get a compressor.
So I'm curious to know are there any good virutal compressors I can get for my Mac, maybe one that is compatible with Logic Pro? Or is there one built in Logic Pro already?
Thanks for any help. |
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dj jasonF |
i dont really know what you mean.. it doesnt really sound like a compressor thing (well, only if its clipping -signal above 0db-) which you cant hear so much when inside your host. if so lower the output. and maybe add a limiter in the master fx chain.
it could also be the bitrate of the mp3, or that you listened in other speakers, or you thought your track is good after listening to it for alot of time, but you was just used to it.
generally i dont think your track sounded that good without compression.. but anyway for mastering, id get izotope ozone, and use logics for other stuff. (yea i think logic has one already)
also check the stikies for info on compression. youll need it ;) |
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walterpearce |
You might want to try doing all your bounces to straight high-quality wav's and then using something different for the encoding (wavelab, soundforge, something else). Its nice to always have a high-quality bounce of everything around, you never know ;)
It sounds like either your mp3 player sucks (itunes whacky EQ setting maybe?), or you bounced with mono or the bitrate/samplerate on your mp3's set too low.
-walter |
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4am |
Do you use audio monitors? Are you mixing and mastering your tunes on them? May be a stupid question but I have to ask because that seems like the problem to me. |
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DigiNut |
Not even the most expensive compressor in the world can save a poor mix.
It's very likely that your sound is clipping, which is why it sounds lousy after rendering. There have been many threads about this with other sequencers (FL, Cubase, etc.) - the answer is always the same. Check your audio levels, because if it goes above 0 dB then it may sound fine in your sequencer but it will sound like after getting bounced.
It could also be that your MP3 encoding settings are low-quality or incorrect. |
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Jake Benson |
Wow, thanks for all the responses!
dj jasonF,
I know it's not my monitors, because I listen to the same track on Logic Pro and then on iTunes on them and the quality changes from great to not so good respectively (I swear it sounds near perfect: lows, mids and highs when played on Logic Pro). I'll check out and see if I am clipping, but if anything, when I work on music in Logic, I can't get it very loud and when I convert it to mp3 and stick it on my iTunes, it sounds a lot quieter than other songs played at the same volume. But I'll double check the master volume and make sure it's below 0db, and bounce it to mp3 and see how that works. Lastly, what does "check the stikies for info compression" mean?
walterpearce,
I'll try bouncing to high-quality wav's too (if I can figure out how), and check iTunes' EQ settings. Are there such settings set for incoming new mp3? Or are the settings set for all songs? (Note: while my mp3 songs suck, all the other mp3s sound just fine).
4am,
Yes, and Yes. But I listen to my songs via my monitors on iTunes as well, so I know it can't be my monitors. The quality once in mp3 sucks on my headphones too.
DigiNut,
I did a search for the past years posts and found nothing to help., especially for Logic Pro. I figured searching farther in the past might not be as applicable to today's technology. |
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4am |
Maybe a limiter is what you need... |
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DeZmA |
Did you do any mastering after you bounced it? If you bounce it in logic it's exactly the same of what you hear in logic so it sounds indeed like poor mp3 encoder or too low resulotion. This has nothing to do with logic and if you want a good compressor, the plugins in logic are top quality. That's the whole point of choosing logic before cubase, having great plugins and total control over the program in a customised way. Get a good mp3 encoder and always choose the best quality settings when encoding. |
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Jake Benson |
Dear god! The EQ on iTunes was completely messed up. It's now back at "flat" and my songs sound fine. What an idiot I am.:whip: |
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Thois |
quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
Dear god! The EQ on iTunes was completely messed up. It's now back at "flat" and my songs sound fine. What an idiot I am.:whip: |
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Rikki |
quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
Dear god! The EQ on iTunes was completely messed up. It's now back at "flat" and my songs sound fine. What an idiot I am.:whip: |
Happens to the best of us mate, and at least you had the balls to come one and admit your minor mistake - if it had been me I'd probably have lied :D
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RIPassion |
...You have Logic Pro 7 and you don't know all the plugins it came with/ you aren't using them?! That's like getting icecream and managing to eat the cone out from underneath it somehow!
See in the channel strip those little horizontal gray boxes? Click on dem bitches and add some effects! |
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