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What to do with Iran? (pg. 10)
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Wrong: The culture of terror has nothing to do with wealth or education. If you don't believe me, look at the 9-11 hijackers, or Osama himself. |
Although you do have a valid point, you still cannot compare the life of a palestinian to the life of a rich mullah government and say they have the same mentality with respect to destroying israel.
Each situation is different. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Why would someone strap a bomb to themselves and detonate it on a bus knowing full well they will not survive? The mentalities at work are essentially the same. To some the destruction of Isreal would be a deed so great that the destruction of Iran would be a justifiable cost. If the killing of 6 jews on a bus is glorious then certainly the destruction of half the jews on the plantet would be as well and would be martyrs don't pay any mind to cost-benefit analysis.
Do I think that Iran really intends on nuking Isreal, no, but it is not totally improbable. |
palestinians have nothing to live for. No economy, unemployment and constant occupation byt he 4th most powerful miliatry in the world.
Irans leaders have something to live for... a country that they OWN and RULE and want to KEEP. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Although you do have a valid point, you still cannot compare the life of a palestinian to the life of a rich mullah government and say they have the same mentality with respect to destroying israel.
Each situation is different. |
This is where we differ in opinion; I believe all Islamic terror is of the same nature, the same root, and it has nothing to do about being oppressed, poor, or having something to live for.
If terror's root was as easy to pinpoint as to say that it comes from being oppressed, or being poor, or being educated, or all three, you would have seen terror sprout across the world in Africa, South America, Korea, Tibet, and so on...
Many now deceased Palestinian sucide bombers, had families, good educations, and fair salaries, they had reasons to live for, but they chose not to.
I don't want to divert this thread to the examiniation of the philosophies of a suicide bomber, so I'll just say it like this:
Israel can't take Iran's threats lightly and it would be highly negligent of them to dismiss them off-hand.
Iran urging on Israel's destruction is one thing.
Iran urging on Israel's destructions while possessing the capabilities to do it is another. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Although you do have a valid point, you still cannot compare the life of a palestinian to the life of a rich mullah government and say they have the same mentality with respect to destroying israel.
Each situation is different. |
But in the end, isn't their goal the same?? |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
But in the end, isn't their goal the same?? |
Nope,and I doubt you'll understand it either no offence.;) |
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| gouuryella |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
You poor soul.... im sorry youve been a victim of Fox news |
Hey id rather watch Fox News then CNN or as I may call the Communist News Network ;). |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
But in the end, isn't their goal the same?? |
I dont think Irans GOAL is to destroy israel. How would that benefit them? Its all rhetoric like i said.. just like many political leaders use to intimidate others.
Do you honestly think that Irans main goal is to destroy israel? There are more important things to do like control the fickle young university students who are the governments REAL threat. |
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| Purple |
| Iran's president is only trying to win muslim people's heart and muslim nations sympathy by showing his hatred for Israel so openly. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
palestinians have nothing to live for. No economy, unemployment and constant occupation byt he 4th most powerful miliatry in the world.
Irans leaders have something to live for... a country that they OWN and RULE and want to KEEP. |
What one has to live for is less important to this discussion then what one has to die for. Your thinking is flawed. You believe that palestinians are willing to kill themselves because they have nothing, this is incorrect, they are killing themselves because the believe their goal to be the worth any sacrafice. If the leadership of Iran believes that Isreal must be destroyed at all costs including the destruction of their own country then the threat of mutually assured destruction means very little. It all comes down to conviction. If the conviction to destroy Isreal is strong enough then Iran will manufacture the means and exercise those means regardless of consequence. It would be a suicide attack on a large scale. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
Hey id rather watch Fox News then CNN or as I may call the Communist News Network ;). |
Cause by watching fox news you don't need to see the real world, or something else that would prove your opinions wrong? |
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| Lepanto |
| Cause Al Jazeera will offer you the REAL world because they are completely unbiased and only show the real story, not something that would contribute to their own agenda. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
Cause Al Jazeera will offer you the REAL world because they are completely unbiased and only show the real story, not something that would contribute to their own agenda. |
Ehm, no? Fox News and Al Jazeera are as bad.... |
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