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So Hillary's a racist? Just like Newt Gingrich, I suppose
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| MisterOpus1 |
Hillary speaks out about how Congress is being run:
Better choice of words? Perhaps, even though I think the comparison is a fair one. This is precisely how the House is being run. No one with a dissenting opinion is heard in any way, and they are consequently shut out of any bills immediately. This is how Delay has effectively ran Congress. It was his sole intention.
But of course that didn't stop the leeeeebral media for running a poll, asking the question:
Perhaps, but I wonder if it was any more harsh than Newt Gingrich's comments just before he became Speaker of the House in '94:
| quote: | | “I clearly fascinate them,” Gingrich said of the Democrats. “I’m much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I’m actually willing to lead the slave rebellion.” [Washington Post, 10/20/94] |
Good ol' leeeebral media with their 5 second memory...... |
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| Shakka |
Given the context of the speech on MLK day, it's pretty hard to overlook.
The only other thing worth mentioning is that when Hillary says it, nobody really gives a , when Newt says it, he loses his job. No double-standards here! |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Given the context of the speech on MLK day, it's pretty hard to overlook. |
Point taken.
| quote: | | The only other thing worth mentioning is that when Hillary says it, nobody really gives a , when Newt says it, he loses his job. No double-standards here! |
Well obviously people do give a if the media is running a poll on the matter immediately following the story. And we need to be honest here - Newt didn't lose his job because of what he said there. In fact that was right before he became Speaker.
He lost his job in a similar though not so deep fashion as Delay did - corruption. |
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| Fir3start3r |
The word definately has very strong connotations for the crowd at hand.
Maybe a smart word to use in the room politically (since she is trying to re-invent herself) but the echoing outside the room as a lot of other non-blacks wondering... :conf: |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Point taken.
Well obviously people do give a if the media is running a poll on the matter immediately following the story. And we need to be honest here - Newt didn't lose his job because of what he said there. In fact that was right before he became Speaker.
He lost his job in a similar though not so deep fashion as Delay did - corruption. |
Ah--I think you're right. Though it sure didn't help his cause.
I think I mixed it up with Trent Lott's comments about Strom "The Mummy" Thurmond.
But it would seem that GOPers are held to a higher standard than Dems with the likely excuse being that they are the party of rich white men. Can you imagine the outrage if the political tables had been turned? Granted this is all just a sideshow, but we could use an entertaining sideshow right now! |
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| occrider |
| Lordy LORDY, Massa, I ben' pushing dis legislation ALL day, and all I gots to show for it is $158,100 a year! |
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| tiesto14 |
Now Hillary cares about blacks? HA!
Where was her voice during Rwanda, when her husband sat on his coked up ass? |
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| Candeeman |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Now Hillary cares about blacks? HA!
Where was her voice during Rwanda, when her husband sat on his coked up ass? |
HAHAHA |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Now Hillary cares about blacks? HA!
Where was her voice during Rwanda, when her husband sat on his coked up ass? |
I thought he only smoked but didn't inhale?
Seriously, I think you got your Presidents mixed up. This current President is/was the cokehead, not the previous one. Unless you have substantial reports of his behavior that no one else is aware of?
Regardless, your point is well taken. I guess Hillary's voice was about the same place as Bush and Laura's voice over the past 4 years concerning Rwanda or the entire Congo for that matter. I guess one racist only passes it down to another in the oval office.
Or perhaps neither one are truly racists?
Regardless, I guess if you, the leeebral press, or anyone else on the GOP side has an issue with Hillary utilizing the word "plantation" to describe the current GOP, then I suppose you, the leeebral press, and anyone else on the GOP should demand apologies from Bush supporting sources that use the same word to describe Democrats:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/col...3/22/14865.html
That bitch who wrote that opinion above couldn't use the word enough, could she?
Want some more?:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comme...t-alt090503.asp
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/edito...ml?id=110005867
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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/ei...tory.guest.html
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/art...11/122038.shtml
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http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20...94808-6939r.htm
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...1/25/cf.01.html
Can we cease with the double standards now, please?
Oh, and by the way, is this attention given to Hillary that so-called media "love fest" that you GOPers complain about so much? If it is, I'd hate to see the media have it out for her..... |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I thought he only smoked but didn't inhale?
Seriously, I think you got your Presidents mixed up. This current President is/was the cokehead, not the previous one. Unless you have substantial reports of his behavior that no one else is aware of?
Regardless, your point is well taken. I guess Hillary's voice was about the same place as Bush and Laura's voice over the past 4 years concerning Rwanda or the entire Congo for that matter. I guess one racist only passes it down to another in the oval office.
Or perhaps neither one are truly racists?
Regardless, I guess if you, the leeebral press, or anyone else on the GOP side has an issue with Hillary utilizing the word "plantation" to describe the current GOP, then I suppose you, the leeebral press, and anyone else on the GOP should demand apologies from Bush supporting sources that use the same word to describe Democrats:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/col...3/22/14865.html
That bitch who wrote that opinion above couldn't use the word enough, could she?
Want some more?:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comme...t-alt090503.asp
and
http://www.opinionjournal.com/edito...ml?id=110005867
and
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/ei...tory.guest.html
and
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/art...11/122038.shtml
and
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20...94808-6939r.htm
and
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...1/25/cf.01.html
Can we cease with the double standards now, please?
Oh, and by the way, is this attention given to Hillary that so-called media "love fest" that you GOPers complain about so much? If it is, I'd hate to see the media have it out for her..... |
Watch out or I'll start calling you a Hillary Apologist!;) |
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| Fir3start3r |
Appears my assertation about playing the race card weren't that far off...
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Senator Likens House to Slavery, Drawing Rebukes From Some
BY JULIA LEVY - Staff Reporter of the Sun
January 17, 2006
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/25953
Martin Luther King Jr. fought four decades ago to free black Americans from the legacy of slavery. Yesterday, Senator Clinton compared the Republican leadership of the current House of Representatives to the very idea the civil rights leader dedicated his life to fighting.
"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run - it has been run like a plantation," she said. "You know what I'm talking about."
Mrs. Clinton, who was addressing a packed house at the Reverend Al Sharpton's annual Martin Luther King Day event at Canaan Baptist Church in Harlem, continued: "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary point of view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard. The Senate's not that bad, but it's been difficult. It's been difficult."
Later in the afternoon, Mrs. Clinton's press secretary, Philippe Reines, declined to comment on the senator's allusion to slavery, but he said she was simply discussing "a top-down system that is fundamentally at odds with how the people's House should operate."
Mrs. Clinton's reference to one of the darkest periods of American history drew applause, but some national political observers said yesterday that they doubt the comparison of mainstream politicians to slave owners will help the senator win broad-based support as she tests the political waters for a possible presidential campaign.
"The use of the term plantation is foolish, and my guess is that she will live to regret this," a University of Virginia political analyst, Larry Sabato, said. "She's playing the race card."
Mr. Sabato said making slavery references is usually taboo, a lesson Trent Lott learned three years ago, when he was forced to step down as Senate majority leader after he implied at Senator Thurmond's 100th birthday party that modern Mississippi endorsed Thurmond's segregationist 1948 presidential platform.
"There are certain analogies politicians learn not to make - comparisons to Hitler, slavery, the Holocaust, and others, and she violated one of the rules today, and we'll see if she pays the price," Mr. Sabato said. "What plays at a Martin Luther King Day event in Harlem is very unlikely to play in the rest of America."
He said Mrs. Clinton's "plantation" comment could "counteract" her recent attempts to paint herself as a political centrist.
"She's been working very hard to convince people that she's a moderate, not the typical Democratic liberal that runs for president, but this is precisely the type of thing that the typical Democratic liberal would say," Mr. Sabato said.
A government professor at Dartmouth College, Linda Fowler, said while the senator received applause from yesterday's largely black audience, she might have offended some black Americans who feel the comment was less than sensitive.
"The question is whether you trivialize the suffering that people experienced on plantations by applying that word to a different setting," she said. "It's just really a question of appropriateness - making a connection between the badly treated Democrats in the House of Representatives and people who are enslaved against their will. It just seems like a stretch."
During her remarks, Mrs. Clinton also apologized to a handful of New Orleans evacuees in attendance "on behalf of a government that left you behind," and said the Bush administration has "a budget deficit and a moral deficit."
Mrs. Clinton was just one of the politicians onstage yesterday at the Sharpton event, which is a yearly opportunity for New York's political class to tout their political goals and answer questions.
Mayor Bloomberg, City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, and Senator Schumer gave speeches, as did Democratic gubernatorial candidates Eliot Spitzer and Thomas Suozzi, and union leaders Michael Fishman of 32-BJ and Randi Weingarten of the United Federation of Teachers.
At the outset, Rev. Sharpton said he wanted the speakers to express their points of view, even if they might be unpopular.
"Everyone that speaks - some we'll agree with and some we will not," he said. "This is not a time to disrespect someone who has something to say." He said King encouraged people to be open, not to shut out others' opinions.
"Dr. King," he said, "is not about your ego trip."
Most of the government officials who addressed the crowd delivered staid remarks about the significance of the holiday, rattling off quotable quotes by King. None took the opportunity to take jabs at their political competitors.
Mr. Suozzi, though, received a tough line of questioning from ACORN's Bertha Lewis about his affordable housing record in Nassau County.
After a few "excuse me's" to quiet the crowd, Mr. Suozzi said Nassau County has made a lot of progress under his leadership and vowed to build affordable housing with the proceeds of a lucrative real estate deal. His answer received some applause.
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in fact, even some black Democrats are upset at Hillary's ignorance...
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Wednesday, Jan. 18, 2006 9:19 a.m. EST
Black Dem Blasts 'Plantation' Hillary Clinton
A high profile black Democrat in New York City is blasting Hillary Clinton for playing racial politics with her Martin Luther King Day tribute, saying her use of the term "plantation" was "condescending" to African Americans.
"I think her speech was contrived and condescending," City Councilman Charles Barron told ABC Radio's Sean Hannity on Tuesday.
"I don't like the idea that she used 'plantation' with a black audience," Barron complained. "I think that's a very serious analogy and I understand when we [blacks] use it from time to time. But that has been a very horrific experience. And the Democrats haven't [treated] us a whole lot better than the Republicans."
Barron, a former Black Panther who sat behind Mrs. Clinton as she addressed the King Day gathering at Harlem's Canaan Baptist Church, said he had no problem with the other part of her comments.
"I agree with her that [the Bush administration] has been the worst administration in the history of America," Barron said.
Asked if Mrs. Clinton should "step down" or "apologize" for her use of the racially incendiary term, Barron said, "No, I don't think she has to. I think what she did was tell the truth about the Republican administration."
Barron's comments stand in marked contrast to Rev. Al Sharpton, who defended Mrs. Clinton's "plantation" outburst on Monday.
I absolutely defend her saying it because I said it all through the '04 elections," Sharpton told the New York Daily News.
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More here http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01...tion/index.html |
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| donnybrasco |
What dissenting voices exactly is she referring to? Whenever I watch C-Span, or the news, it seems to me that the Dem's get PLENTY of floor time and air time respectively.
God, I wish she would say it's all a "vast right-wing conspiracy" again. :stongue:
She needs to STFU and fade away already, dumb bitch. |
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