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licensing/sampling/white labels
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| Scolomon |
Ok so does EVERY producer get permission to use a song if they sample it and it is recognizable?
are white labels harder to track down? can i somehow release it and retain anonymity so i can shamelessly sample?
If i am producing a track and sampling some riffs what do i need to know if i eventually want to release it? |
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| Diginerd |
Talk about a loaded question, one which is pretty much unanswerable in the way that you want..
To start with you MAY get away with a handful of white labels, but really what's the point if you can't get your name out there due to you ripping off someone else?
Not only that getting a complete bootleg mastered and manufacturered requires some delicacy, certainly not wise as your first time through the process..
So short version is no don't do it, long version if you know what you are doing and are willing to take risks you could pull it off, but you most likely will not see much reward...
Are the risks work the potentially limited benefits..?
The choice is yours. |
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| Scolomon |
| so if i create a song and i create my own label (lets say legally), what do i get a bunch pressed and talk to websites like dancerecords and see if they will carry it? |
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| Diginerd |
Your best bet is to build a relatonship with a distributor.
Not only that paying a promotion company to get your record mailled out and managed can be a good option, though it's easy to be ripped off.
Finally literally running around all the recordshiops with a bunch of copies can help as well, though you need to be a smooth tlker and know what you're doing.
Starting absolutely from scratch with no experience is very very tricky and potentially very expensive.. |
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| Scolomon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Diginerd
Your best bet is to build a relatonship with a distributor.
Not only that paying a promotion company to get your record mailled out and managed can be a good option, though it's easy to be ripped off.
Finally literally running around all the recordshiops with a bunch of copies can help as well, though you need to be a smooth tlker and know what you're doing.
Starting absolutely from scratch with no experience is very very tricky and potentially very expensive.. |
I'm up for a challenge
Scott Edward (www.djscottedward.com) is starting from scratch |
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| qiushiming |
| id suggest hiring a web designer to spruce up that website... |
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| Storyteller |
| I might add that I'm not that expensive :P |
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| Scolomon |
| I'm on it for sure, i can do it myself i just need some time |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scolomon
Ok so does EVERY producer get permission to use a song if they sample it and it is recognizable?
are white labels harder to track down? can i somehow release it and retain anonymity so i can shamelessly sample?
If i am producing a track and sampling some riffs what do i need to know if i eventually want to release it? |
Gonna give you a decent reply... based on dutch rules and own experience or from others..
| quote: | | Ok so does EVERY producer get permission to use a song if they sample it and it is recognizable? |
no
| quote: | | are white labels harder to track down? can i somehow release it and retain anonymity so i can shamelessly sample? |
As soon as they've hit the shops, yes I believe so.
| quote: | | If i am producing a track and sampling some riffs what do i need to know if i eventually want to release it? |
make sure you won't get caught. because of friend of mine did get caught. He had to pay a 2500Euro fine on top of the vinyl pressing costs and had to sign a contract stating he would never commit a crime such as unlawfully exploiting somebody else's work. (If he does he will be put in prison and will get a 1000E fine per medium pressed with illegal content. He had 500 vinyls pressed and could have gotten a fine of half a million euro's directly if they weren't as kind as they are)
You know how he got caught? Because he was asking questions on the internet about this, just as you are doing now. |
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| Scolomon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
You know how he got caught? Because he was asking questions on the internet about this, just as you are doing now. |
Well good thing I asked. Looks like i will have to just do it all on my own!
OK BUT NEW QUESTION
can i remix a song to play in a club if i dont distribute it? If i am the only person who has it? |
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| Aquarian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scolomon OK BUT NEW QUESTION
can i remix a song to play in a club if i dont distribute it? If i am the only person who has it? |
Interesting question. How would it differ from a DJ manipulating a track as it's being played, or mashing tracks together? |
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| Diginerd |
A grey area and a half. Technically, if you split legal hairs (Actually not so fine hairs) you are on the wrong side of the law.
In practice though I've never heard of anyone getting nailled for such a thing, so long as it's not recorded and distributed by other means (ie a recording of the set was made with the work in it). |
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