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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | ...but as long as they keep the commies out of my backyard, I don't care...
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I lol'd :stongue: |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
Not at all complaining.
Just pointing out what was said. If I can come up with some democratic party quotes I would in a heartbeat.
1900's Communists
2000's Terrorists
Same old boogeyman. |
Can you really compare the two as the, "Same old boogeyman" other than them both being on the wrong side?
They're completely different IMHO. |
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| Lepanto |
| I can't believe this hasn't happened already. I'm so sick of lies already. |
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| stevieboy32808 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. |
Great post, but unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with him:
| quote: | Originally posted by The Greek
I think those days are gone. If the British were running the U.S. right now we would have never declared our independence and gone to war. We don't have that spark in us anymore. We are too scared to upset the status quo and would rather see all our rights taken from us in order to hold on to our lifestyles. It's sad but it's true. |
Even if we did have the 'spark' to revolt we could not overpower our government. The U.S. spends the most money in our military than any other country in the world. I imagine our government has a hell of an arsenal just in case this revolt ever happens.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...arySpending.jpg |
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| shaolin_Z |
| American gladiator will fuel our people. |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Can you really compare the two as the, "Same old boogeyman" other than them both being on the wrong side?
They're completely different IMHO. |
Doesn't matter who the boogeyman is just as long as they can come up with a boogeyman.
There's always gonna be a bad guy to point the finger at.
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
The truth is US citizens are very comfortable and attached to their current lifestyles. They don't want to do anything that will risk them. Subsequently, there will be no real action against the trend of deminishing freedoms so long as the people can maintain a level of comfort similar to what they have now. By the time the US government has taken enough of the citizens' rights and freedoms away that the populace is actually moved to resist it will be far too late as they will already have given up the tools needed to exercise their resistance.
The sad truth is the US is a society (although certainly not the only one) that celebrates ignorance and indifference for the masses with regard to politics. When the electorate of a state doesn't care about or understand politics democracy simply doesn't work. |
^^^^^^^^
Doesn't speak for this American. So don't assume he knows them all.
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Great post, but unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with him |
What makes you think that the ties that bind were ever severed? |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
Doesn't matter who the boogeyman is just as long as they can come up with a boogeyman.
There's always gonna be a bad guy to point the finger at.
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Uh...I think I said that...:p
But yea....agreed... ;) |
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| stevieboy32808 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
What makes you think that the ties that bind were ever severed? |
That's a real tough question to answer, but most of what I'm about to say is through general observation. Here's what I feel why the U.S. as whole do not have the strong enough ties as we once did back in the day:
-voted for Bush again
-unwillingess to do anything about the countless holes in the official 9/11 story
-unable to push change in the media, we're getting misinformed or spinned stories and the public doesn't know it
-america is getting dumber
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It's really vague, but I hope you get the idea. |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Even if we did have the 'spark' to revolt we could not overpower our government. The U.S. spends the most money in our military than any other country in the world. I imagine our government has a hell of an arsenal just in case this revolt ever happens.
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That's if the military follows our government. I honestly can't see American Soldiers firing on American Citizens. I think they would drop their guns, and refuse. At least some of them. :)
And yes, I know about the vietnam protests, but this would be different. |
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| stevieboy32808 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
That's if the military follows our government. I honestly can't see American Soldiers firing on American Citizens. I think they would drop their guns, and refuse. At least some of them. :)
And yes, I know about the vietnam protests, but this would be different. |
Oh my goodness, how stupid am I. I never thought of it in that way! |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Oh my goodness, how stupid am I. I never thought of it in that way! |
I offended you, sorry. :( |
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| stevieboy32808 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
I offended you, sorry. :( |
I wasn't being sarcastic. My mindset was fixed in one way, but you made me realize the obvious which never crossed my mind. ;) |
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