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Any tricks to pitch bending?
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| DOOMBOT |
I noticed the other pitch bending thread but I couldn't find an answer to what I am looking for...
Let's say that I have the pitch set at a spot where the 2 records are beatmatched for a good 10 seconds or so and then after that they begin to drift a little. Let's say, the incoming track begins to fall behind a little. Can you speed the pitch up and immediately bring it back to the original point to keep it steady with the other record? And if this is something that does work, how much do you recommend increasing the pitch for that split second before bringing it back to the original point? |
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| Zild |
Yeah, that is how a lot of people pitch bend, including myself. As for the specifics just practice.
Usually when you're live in a mix you want it to be to the point where it takes longer than 10 seconds to drift and you want to be able to just make a slight push in the opposite direction of the slip wait a little bit for the beats to align and then make a tiny push back towards the original spot. The only time you really want to "throw" the pitch and then bring it back is when you're doing the initial beatmatching. Live you shouldn't need to make such drastic adjustments. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| Yeah, but there are some of those songs where I like the incoming track to play live with the curent track for a good 30 seconds or sometimes more because it sounds really good. As far as pushing, are you talking about actually pushing the record with your hand? Because live, that sounds really bad. Slamming the pitch really fast and bringing it back to the original point, most of the time can't really be heard with the original track still playing and the incoming EQ's are low on the incoming track. |
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| Soundwerks |
| thats what I do. slam the pitch quickly, and bring it back to the original spot....cant hear it, and makes fine adjustments.:) |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Soundwerks
thats what I do. slam the pitch quickly, and bring it back to the original spot....cant hear it, and makes fine adjustments.:) |
But how far up or down (depending on whether the track is lagging or too fast) do you generally slam it before bringing it back to the original point? |
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| Basstard |
| whatever it takes. a you shouldnt be slamming it at all if you are just correcting. it should be a slow, fluid motion. the further the songs are off the further you move the pitch. do it nice a steadily then smoothly bring it back to the correct position. |
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| Freak |
you dont bring it back to the original point.
if you had to correct it, the original point was wrong anyway.
You can do the most insane pitch riding and its not audible if you do it correctly. |
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| trancecadet |
| Im slowing getting better at riding on the pitch. My only trouble is getting it back to the exact same spot plus a tad more when im in a panic. |
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| Basstard |
| you dont need to get it right the first time. if you bring it back and it's still drifting, fix it again. keep continuing until it reaches a point were u virtually only have to look at the pitch fader to move it to the correct position |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Yeah, but there are some of those songs where I like the incoming track to play live with the curent track for a good 30 seconds or sometimes more because it sounds really good. As far as pushing, are you talking about actually pushing the record with your hand? Because live, that sounds really bad. Slamming the pitch really fast and bringing it back to the original point, most of the time can't really be heard with the original track still playing and the incoming EQ's are low on the incoming track. |
No sir I never said anything about touching it with your hand. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
No sir I never said anything about touching it with your hand. |
Sorry. When people say push I usually take it as a physical push on the record.
Freak: Some songs will just drift sometimes no matter what. So I am saying that when it begins to slightly move apart from the other track what exactly is the best method. So some here are saying to slam the pitch from one extreme back to where you had it and others are saying ever so slightly move it either up or down and bring it back. |
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| benoitfan |
i'd say you have to push the pitch as far as the adjusment needs to be done. what i mean is, if the song has been going tight for 30 seconds, the adjusment it will need will be obviously quite different than if it was only 10 seconds. you'll lose the spot anyways and 99% of the time it's never right at first so who cares, just drift when necessary up and down "inside the beat" and no one will notice.
I hope I make sense lol |
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