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spit_heron
how useful do you guys find wave display on cdj1000s? How accurate is it?

I want to get a high end table top cd player to compliment/replace my cdj100 and the one thing that bothers me about the 100 is not being able to tell when breaks are coming or ending with unfamiliar tracks. This feature puts the 1000 to the top of my list but the denon s3500 is really giving me second thoughts.
Tygon
The 1000s aren't worth the extra money just for this feature and can be better spent on other gear. My suggestion... learn your tracks better before you play them. I good DJ knows every song inside and out without the ability of seeing when the breaks are ;)
Zild
A good DJ can take tracks they're listened to once and never mixed, and put a great set together for a crowd. For me the whole know your tracks thing basically comes down to be familiar with the shared structure of EDM music. You can always feel when a phrase is about to start/end and that is all you really need. I love the CDJ1000s, but I wouldn't buy them solely for the wave display.
spit_heron
well yeah trance is painfully predictable; im not talking about phrases, thats trained into your head easily enough.

It just nice to know, 'hmm is this breakdown gonna last 30 or 90 seconds?' etc.
idoru
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Originally posted by Zild
A good DJ can take tracks they're listened to once and never mixed, and put a great set together for a crowd. For me the whole know your tracks thing basically comes down to be familiar with the shared structure of EDM music. You can always feel when a phrase is about to start/end and that is all you really need. I love the CDJ1000s, but I wouldn't buy them solely for the wave display.


Agreed. I burnt off a ton of new tunes last night that I'd never spun before, and it ended up being one of my best mixes in the last couple of weeks. Good times.
Zild
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Originally posted by idoru
Agreed. I burnt off a ton of new tunes last night that I'd never spun before, and it ended up being one of my best mixes in the last couple of weeks. Good times.


Yeah one of the things that drives me as a DJ is buying tunes burning them to CD and heading straight to the club to find a nice set through my new choons. You can always find me buying and burning new music immediately before a gig.
Spirit5
I don't think the wave display on the CDJ 1000s is that great, but it is helpful to me if it's a song of another genre, something that is harder to mix or just something that i've never heard. I try to use MixMeister to look at the tunes, and when I don't, i've been into trance for so long and listen to it so much that I become accustomed to the structure of the tunes, so I can almost count phrases in my head. I do it while driving sometimes and listening to a track, I usually listen to the same track 5 times or more through and just anaylze it each time. So it's 50/50, not something you definitely need. One of the real reasons I chose the 1000 over the 800, was the 6% pitch, with .02 pitch resolution, which I find more accurate, esp because my goal is to mix trance, prog, breaks, house and chill/downtempo, so I need as much accuracy as possible. Yeah I could have gotten the 200s, but I like the feel of the 1000.
tubby
don't have the 1000, but the cmx has a similar, bt not quite as good, wave display, and I dind it very helpful to predict breakdowns on new tracks. nothing worse than getting halfway through a mix to find the main tune just died. of course I should know my tracks better, but this is one more tool to help idiots like me.
that said, I wouldn't pay the premium for the 1k over the 800 ifthat's the only difference you are after
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