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CDJ 1000 MK3 - features & pic! (pg. 2)
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| Xtracktor |
Some high res pics taken from the pioneer forums:
  
As well as some FAQ taken from the pioneer boards (Also on the 800 mk2 thread):
Q: CDJ-1000Mk3: What are the resistance ranges in the
"Jog Feel Adjust"?
A: All the way to the left is the same resistance as the CDJ-800(mk1). About 1pm is the CDJ-1000mk2. All the way to the right is slightly heavier than the 1000Mk2.
Q: Why are the prices more expensive than the 800(Mk1) and 1000Mk2?
A: More stuff and more improvements over those players
Q: What if we just purchased a 1000mk2 or 800(mk1)? Do you guys have a upgrade trade in program?
A: No. If you just purchased they will have been cheaper than what you will have to pay for the new models. So if you really think you need the new features then sell the old ones and get the new ones.
Q: When will they REALLY hit the stores.
A: For sure beginning of April. Possibly end of March.
Q: If the 800Mk2 has been increased to 4000 cue point memory. 10 per CD x 400 CDs. How much did the 800(mk1) have?
A: 500
Q: What does it mean that the 800Mk2 mimics the 1000mk2 jog feel.
A: The 800 no longer will have that super light feel. It will have the heavier feel of the 1000Mk2
Q: What if I like the feel of the 800 (Mk1).
A: Get the 1000Mk3 which you can fine tune to have that super light feel.
Q: Is the resume function on these new players the same as the resume on the CDJ200?
A: Yes
Q: Is the Hot Loop on the Mk3 the same as the Hot Loop on the DVJ?
A: Yes
Q: Am I correct to understand that the pitch in wide when using MP3 is +70% where as the pitch when playing CD is +100%? If so why is that.
A: Yes you are correct. The reason why is just BECAUSE.
Q: Is the reason that the 1000Mk2 has been so hard to find because you guys were discontinuing the line?
A: Yes and No. Yes we knew we were going to introduce a new player however we thought we had ordered enough to fill demand through April. However over the last 18 months Pioneer (Worldwide) has experienced a record sales growth on our turntables. Literally the demand outweighed the supply.
Q: When will the product be available in Europe.
A: Around the same as US
Q: When will the product be available in Australia?
A: Australia is usually a month behind the rest of the countries however check with them to be sure.
Q: What's the deal with the little door for the memory card?
A: The door was placed as a protection. Not that it has ever happened to anyone I know but in the old model if you accidentally removed the card when writing to it the card would be permanently damaged. This way you cannot write to the card when the door is open.
Q: The CDJ-800Mk2 says it has a metalic look non slip jog dial. Is this the same as the DVJ?
A: Same look however a different composite material that is not as slippery as the DVJ. Has the same texture as the 1000Mk2.
Q: The wave display on the 1000Mk3 looks differente
A: Yes you are correct because the Mk2 was 50 dots wide the Mk3 is 100 dots wide.
Q: Am I correct to understand that the 1000Mk3 now can use SD as well as MMC cards just like the DVJ can?
A: YES
Q: Why didn't Pioneer make the Mk3 a rotating platter.
A: The CDJ patented jog dial technolgy has been around since 2000. It's the industry standard and what ALL top DJs ask for on their riders. All other rotating platters do a poor job of emulating a turntable. So we will stick to what we know best and continue with this jog dial format.
Q: Will Pioneer be offering system cases for these players with your mixers.
A: No however the foot print of these players as well as the new DJM800 is the same as the previous models. Many case companies already exist and market cases for these players.
Q: The press release says more data is available now. What does that exactly mean.
A: The longer wave display and more text display. The old player had 10 characters the new one has 16 characters.
Q: Is the wave read the same speed as the mk2
A: Wave Data reading speed is faster thatn Mk2
Q: What doea it mean improved Super Fast Manual Search
A: Normal Mk2 and 800 reads 80x speed when super fast is engaged
NEW Mk3 has step levels of speed so the faster you turn the faster the super fast reads. I.e. 5x – 10x – 20x – 40x – 80x – 160x
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xtracktor
Q: What if I like the feel of the 800 (Mk1).
A: Get the 1000Mk3 which you can fine tune to have that super light feel.
Q: Am I correct to understand that the pitch in wide when using MP3 is +70% where as the pitch when playing CD is +100%? If so why is that.
A: Yes you are correct. The reason why is just BECAUSE.
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Those answers seem very blunt along with a few others.
Funny how the figured out the light platter may be an upside so they put it on the 1000 so that you have to buy that. |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Q: What if we just purchased a 1000mk2 or 800(mk1)? Do you guys have a upgrade trade in program?
A: No. If you just purchased they will have been cheaper than what you will have to pay for the new models. So if you really think you need the new features then sell the old ones and get the new ones.
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Kind of sums up pioneers apalling attitude really.
they keep it secret-and they have been denying it for months and months until they were blue in the face, then wonder why people moan having just bought some just as the new model is announced.
I mean, i just bought three of the fockers, and although MP3 bollocks does not interest me in the slightest- thats kind of beside the point. Hot looping interests me, but not enough to spend the extra $- but it would have been nice to know.
Im happy with the mk2s, dont get me wrong- but pioneers customer philosophy (which is evident on their boards) stinks. |
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| Ryan0751 |
Well those Q/A's likely came from Pulse, who's a moderator on the pioneerprodjforums. Those forums have so many rules and so much attitude it's painful to read.
I'm just really dissapointed that they are MORE expensive then the MK2's, which were ALREADY overpriced. They didn't exactly add a whole lot of features.
I'd say the DN-S3500 is a much better value at this point, even if it isn't the "industry standard".
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Kind of sums up pioneers apalling attitude really.
they keep it secret-and they have been denying it for months and months until they were blue in the face, then wonder why people moan having just bought some just as the new model is announced.
I mean, i just bought three of the fockers, and although MP3 bollocks does not interest me in the slightest- thats kind of beside the point. Hot looping interests me, but not enough to spend the extra $- but it would have been nice to know.
Im happy with the mk2s, dont get me wrong- but pioneers customer philosophy (which is evident on their boards) stinks. |
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| spit_heron |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
grrrr
it does hot loops :mad:
Still not worth the extra cash tho. |
can someone give a quick explanation of how this works? Thanks. |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by spit_heron
can someone give a quick explanation of how this works? Thanks. |
Sure
On the mk2, with the top three buttons on the top left (A,B,C) you could record/mark three different cue points on. You hit the button and the track jumps to them instantly.
With the mk3, they have made it so not just cue points are stored- but loops are, hence you can jump between three different loops at any time. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mimoza
Price
CDJ-800MK2 € 879,- (incl. BTW) |
No way. I scored my two 800s for about $450 USD each. I refuse to pay over $600 (when they're asking for over $1,000) for something that doesn't really improve on what's already in existence.
Pioneer makes some very, very high-quality equipment, but they just lost a bunch of points in my book. |
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| generic |
wonder if they play vbr mp3
won't be buying them for that sort of money anyway though |
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| Omega_Blue |
| i'd be more willing to buy these if they had a wave readout like traktor. that'd be badass. |
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| mzvirbulis |
hey who cares about industry standard, you gonna come around some many different piceces of equipment during your djing times. so i would like to add that i recently dj at an odd event (they invited me off the street lol), i finished work walking home and there was a party. i knew one guy, they shout'd me some alcohol and i stay'd around chatting. the music was going and the dude i knew rememberd that i dj. everyone there love edm so i said would you like me to come over and play some music.
bought 2 cretes over. they really enjoyed the 4 tracks i played LOL.
anyways they had to take things inside cos it got to loud (cops came but everthing was all ok) as it was a residential area.
i had never used a djm 600 mixer and 800's before yet i djed well on the mixer. i dont use cd's so i used his, couldnt believe that the guy only had p2p stuff and most werent dj friendly in a way. still i was amazed how well i djed with the 800's also having no previous experience with cdj's. from my perspective the 800's had a nice feel!
so really my point is who cares if its standard or not because you will get well adapted to the equipment most times!
buy what you feel you want to buy and what works for you it wont matter to much if your experienced! |
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| Keith Chambers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Kind of sums up pioneers apalling attitude really.
they keep it secret-and they have been denying it for months and months until they were blue in the face, then wonder why people moan having just bought some just as the new model is announced.
I mean, i just bought three of the fockers, and although MP3 bollocks does not interest me in the slightest- thats kind of beside the point. Hot looping interests me, but not enough to spend the extra $- but it would have been nice to know.
Im happy with the mk2s, dont get me wrong- but pioneers customer philosophy (which is evident on their boards) stinks. |
Yes it would have been nice to know. I'm sure the competition would have liked to know as well though. Some companies choose to stay competitive by keeping future plans secret. A&H didn't with their still-to-be-released 3d. If I were them I would have kept that bad boy under wraps. The DJM-800 with it's fully MIDI is going to be a serious competitor and at a much lower price point. I would imagine Pioneer did a few things different because A&H had laid all their cards on the table so early.
Apple is the master of this approach. Nobody saw the Nano coming. The MacBook wasn't known until the night before, Intel for OSX was kept under wraps until only days before the announcement. Apple lives and dies (and thrives) by being first to market.
And I don't think they denied anything did they? They said they are always working on newer revs of their products. A bunch of sites made it clear they had low stock and expected something new shortly. I might have missed the denial and if they said they weren't that going to ship a new CDJ that would be ty. But no-comment would sit OK with me.
Somebody will have always bought something the day before a new rev was announced. It's happened to me and it sucks but you can't blame them for it. Customers enjoy being informed but at the end of the day I think the team that gets their product to market first wins. Keeping it under wraps, if at all possible, helps you be first.
My .02 anyway... :) |
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