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Hey diginut suck on this. Transitway 1 closed minded residents 0 (pg. 2)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Just don't elect Fantino.
Remember what he did to our raves as police cheif - imagine what he'd do to our clubs/entertainment district as mayor! |
id never vote for fantino. Im leaning toward pitfield but i have questions about her too.
Lets wait and see who the candidates turn out to be.
All i know is that Toronto needs a good mayor and FAST! |
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| infinity HiGH |
Fantino is running for mayor? :rolleyes: ffs...how is he in the public eye? if he wins then RJ is right, we can kiss our nightlife good-bye. And Jay is right too...this city NEEDS a good mayor before it's really too late. If I were McQuinty and Miller asked me to bail Toronto out I'd laugh him out of office. Show me a decent plan on how you expect to make money, and then I'd consider it, cause otherwise, you don't deserve any help for being the incompetent fool that you are.
edit: if they really wanna do something about street car service...then do a dedicated streetcar lane on Queen street. |
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| Time2Burn |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
edit: if they really wanna do something about street car service...then do a dedicated streetcar lane on Queen street. |
Too Narrow for that. Personally i think the 2 main priorities should be Subway expansion to York U or Dedicated bus lanes to York U. And ppursuing A routh to the airport. |
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| Jayx1 |
| they shoudl turn queen st into a pedestrian street that is covered by tarp in the winter. We could do so much more with this city but no one here has vision. either that or somehow its illegal. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Time2Burn
Too Narrow for that. |
yea i know but i can keep dreaming can't i? that would cut my hour-long trip to downtown to like 30 minutes |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
they shoudl turn queen st into a pedestrian street that is covered by tarp in the winter. We could do so much more with this city but no one here has vision. either that or somehow its illegal. |
thats the problem with this city, or culture even. Unless it's an idea that pleases EVERYONE, then it usually won't go through because some poor sap is gonna bitch about how it's not positive for THEM. Thats the sort of thinking that stops progress because there's always gonna be someone thats gonna find something to bitch about, and they'll keep bitching until they get it their way. Thats why I think the general public shouldn't have so much say in what happens in this city, in terms of infrastructure, economy, and so forth. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by TO guy
Yeah, the Sheppard line turned out to be quite a mess too.
Any recent word on the York U line? |
| quote: | Proposed Alignment
The environmental assessment and public consultation process finalized the proposed alignment of the York University extension. Initially, there was some debate over whether the line should cross CN’s Newmarket subdivision (which the Bradford line GO Trains use)closer to Finch or Sheppard Avenues, and whether the line at Steeles should face northeast for a possible extension towards Yonge Street, or northwest for a possible extension towards Jane and Highway 7.
Work would begin at Downsview station. A new pocket track would be built where the line emerges from tunnel south of Downsview station. Initially this pocket track was to be built north of Downsview station, but such a construction would have required a number of businesses to be expropriated and demolished. The pocket track would allow the TTC to short turn trains — originally at Downsview, but with the change, now at Wilson — raising the possibility that the rush hour practise of short turning certain trains at St. Clair West station could be resurrected at Wilson.
North of Downsview, the line would curve gently west, passing beneath Sheppard Avenue at Chesswood Drive and proceeding west a short distance south of Sheppard Avenue. A station stop, tentatively named Sheppard West, would be built immediately west of the GO Bradford line. There would be pedestrian entrances leading to Sheppard Avenue and possibly towards Downsview Park, and an on-street transfer with Sheppard Avenue buses. A connection with the Bradford GO line could also be provided.
The TTC briefly considered naming this station Park or Parc Downsview Park, but decided to retain the name Sheppard West to avoid confusion with Downsview station next door.
Continuing west, the line would pass beneath Sheppard Avenue at Ceramic Road, and then curve gently north, passing beneath Keele Street at St. Regis Crescent, and continuing north under Keele Street. Finch West station would be built beneath the Keele/Finch intersection, featuring a bus terminal connecting with Keele and Finch West buses, commuter parking in the Hydro right-of-way and a passenger pick-up/drop-off area.
Currently, this station is tentatively named Finch West. In a report, the TTC dismissed a suggestion of naming the station Keele North, but the commission hasn’t considered other suggestions, including Keele/Finch. This station’s name, along with all the others on the extension, shouldn’t be considered permanent until they are engraved on the station walls.
North of Finch West station, the line continues north beneath Keele Street before turning gradually northwest. The next station, tentatively named York University, would be located beneath York University Commons, where a number of transit vehicles currently meet. The station would connect to nearby buildings, but would have no off-street bus terminal. Connections with the TTC, GO, York Region and VIVA would occur on-street.
Continuing northwest, the line would enter the Steeles West complex, with a station beneath Steeles Avenue a few hundred metres east of Murray Ross Parkway. There would be pedestrian entrances, and separate TTC, York Region/VIVA and GO Transit bus terminals, with a passenger pick-up/drop-off alongside a large commuter parking lot in the Hydro right-of-way running north of Steeles Avenue. The line would continue some distance northwest into York Region, to allow for the placement of pocket tracks.
An extension east along Steeles Avenue has been precluded. Further extensions will be to the northwest into Vaughan. If the Belt Line proposal is resurrected, trains will have to run along Highway 7, which seems unlikely. Despite this, the TTC believes that the extension will help reduce congestion on the Yonge subway, by diverting as many as 2000 rush-hour commuters by intercepting passengers on Finch and Steeles before they travel all the way to the Yonge line.
The extension would be 6.2 kilometres long. If approved tomorrow, it would take between five and seven years to design and build.
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| quote: | As of January 2006, the York University extension remains the TTC’s top priority for subway expansion, despite the likely construction of a bus-only road between Downsview station and York University later in the year. Before the resignation of Greg Sorbara as Finance Minister while a conflict of interest investigation takes place, there was some hope that provincial funding would be announced for the extension in the 2006 budget. That now seems uncertain. Also, while the environmental assessment process drew to a close, the media played up the realization that the Scarborough RT was nearing the end of its design life and would need to be renovated or replaced, possibly by an extension of the Bloor-Danforth subway.
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you can read the whole thing in full on Transit Toronto |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
thats the problem with this city, or culture even. Unless it's an idea that pleases EVERYONE, then it usually won't go through because some poor sap is gonna bitch about how it's not positive for THEM. Thats the sort of thinking that stops progress because there's always gonna be someone thats gonna find something to bitch about, and they'll keep bitching until they get it their way. Thats why I think the general public shouldn't have so much say in what happens in this city, in terms of infrastructure, economy, and so forth. |
Agreed. When one or 2 old ladies (or a small group of islanders) can halt major projects, we have a problem.
However when a whole community is against a certain project, perhaps it needs to be rethought out?
This is the case with the st clair line. not only is it not necissary, but practically the whole community is against it. They need to scrap this and put the money toward the half billion dollar debt that the city keeps crying about. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by TO guy
Thanks!! |
theres also some good reading on what was proposed in the 1980s. the project was called Network 2011 . one of the lines that was supposed to be built was the Downtown Relief Line which looked really nice.
with planned extensions...
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| Truepioneer |
^ That would have been a brilliant idea!!! It Would have centralized growth in the city and halted much of the urban sprawl which is only encouraged by expressways like the 407.
I like Jayx1's idea of pedestrianizing Queen Street West. I've thought of that myself. It could be our verion of Las Ramblas (Barcelona) Covent Garden (London) or the Nieuwendijk (Amsterdam) It could put us far ahead of other North American cities. Unfortunately many are still stuck in in a 1960 the car is king:( mentality. Which is shocking considering the smog, sprawl and fuel cost prices that are warning us of a disaster. |
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| swilly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Agreed. When one or 2 old ladies (or a small group of islanders) can halt major projects, we have a problem.
However when a whole community is against a certain project, perhaps it needs to be rethought out?
This is the case with the st clair line. not only is it not necissary, but practically the whole community is against it. They need to scrap this and put the money toward the half billion dollar debt that the city keeps crying about. |
I love how you can contradict yourself in one sentence. St clair is a small part of downtown toronto. Thus they are a small group in the larger city, so we would be doing exactly what you said we should not be doing. Also how you can you claim the whole community was against it? Just because there was one organization representing the some of the store owners and some of the community members does not mean the whole community was against it. I used to live up there and i was all for it. I could of got to the st clair subway stop far faster.
Does not matter now as it is going through anyways
hahahha
swilly san |
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