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South Dakota passes a law banning abortions
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| Lepanto |
| Let's hope the House makes the right decision, this is insane. |
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| Renegade |
So they're introducing the law with the explicit aim of having it challenged all the way up to the supreme court? Are these people seriously ing unhinged, or what?
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
Let's hope the House makes the right decision, this is insane. |
Given the main sponsor of the bill is a Democrat, I'd say it's got a pretty good chance of getting through.
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| quote: | | "The momentum for a change in the national policy on abortion is going to come in the not-too-distant future," said Rep. Roger W. Hunt, a Republican who sponsored the bill. To his delight, abortion opponents succeeded in defeating all amendments designed to mitigate the ban, including exceptions in the case of rape or incest or the health of the woman. Hunt said that such "special circumstances" would have diluted the bill and its impact on the national scene. |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6022202424.html
So the fetus will officially have more rights than the mother under South Dakota law? Nice logic there, you fat :
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| josh4 |
| It was inevitable. All we can do is wait and see. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Given the main sponsor of the bill is a Democrat, I'd say it's got a pretty good chance of getting through.
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no, the main supporter of selling ports to UAE is a republican yet there are republicans against that too.
It's time for the government to put that aside and use common sense. A label such as democrat doesn't mean anything anymore. Mayor of NYC is a "Republican" but the only reason that is is because when he was about to run for mayor he was afraid that the Democratic ballot would be too full for him to make a decent stand. And in the last election the minorities didn't vote symbolically at all.
And josh, no! Sitting around waiting for something to happen is exectly what i always say about people who sit on these forums and BITCH. Get out there and protest, make rallys, do SOMETHING. Apathy is death. My protest warriors are organizing a rally as we speak. |
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| DaveSZ |
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Rep. Roger Hunt, a sponsor of the bill, said momentum is building for a change in national policy on abortion. |
http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Jan. 20-22, 2006. N=1,006 adults nationwide. MoE � 3.
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"Turning to abortion: Would you like to see the Supreme Court overturn its 1973 Roe versus Wade decision concerning abortion, or not?"
1/20-22/06
Yes, Overturn 25%
No,
Not Overturn 66%
Unsure 9% |
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| DaveSZ |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/22/AR2006022202424.html
S.D. Abortion Bill Takes Aim at 'Roe'
Senate Ban Does Not Except Rape, Incest
By Evelyn Nieves
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 23, 2006; Page A01
South Dakota lawmakers yesterday approved the nation's most far-reaching ban on abortion, setting the stage for new legal challenges that its supporters say they hope lead to an overturning of Roe v. Wade .
The measure, which passed the state Senate 23 to 12, makes it a felony for doctors to perform any abortion, except to save the life of a pregnant woman. The proposal still must be signed by Gov. Mike Rounds (R), who opposes abortion.
Rep. Roger Hunt, a sponsor of the bill, said momentum is building for a change in national policy on abortion.
The bill was designed to challenge the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe , which in 1973 recognized a right of women to terminate pregnancies. Its sponsors want to force a reexamination of the ruling by the court, which now includes two justices appointed by President Bush.
"The momentum for a change in the national policy on abortion is going to come in the not-too-distant future," said Rep. Roger W. Hunt, a Republican who sponsored the bill. To his delight, abortion opponents succeeded in defeating all amendments designed to mitigate the ban, including exceptions in the case of rape or incest or the health of the woman. Hunt said that such "special circumstances" would have diluted the bill and its impact on the national scene.
Kate Looby, director of Planned Parenthood of South Dakota, which plans to immediately challenge the ban, said that while she was not surprised, she was still a "little shocked" by the vote. "Clearly, this is a devastating day for the women of South Dakota," she said. "We fully expected this, yet it's still distressing to know that this legislative body cares so little about women, about families, about women who are victims of rape or incest."
National abortion rights organizations said the South Dakota vote has set the stage for a new fight to keep abortion legal at the federal level and in the states. "When you see them have a ban that does not include exceptions for rape or incest or the health of the mother, you understand that elections do matter," said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. "We will be very active in '06 and in '08 in electing candidates that represent the views of most Americans."
The antiabortion movement has focused primarily in recent years on a state-by-state effort to enact restrictions on access to abortion, including pushes for parental-notification laws and waiting periods before the procedure may be performed. A 1992 Supreme Court decision again affirmed a right to abortion in a Pennsylvania case, known as Planned Parenthood v. Casey , that said states cannot put an "undue burden" on women getting access to abortions.
Not all antiabortion groups agreed with the South Dakota supporters' effort to directly challenge Roe .
"If you're just reading the law as it stands now, South Dakota's law doesn't really stand any chance under Roe or Casey . I have to agree with those who think it's remote," said Chuck Donovan, executive vice president of the Family Research Council and a former lobbyist for the National Right to Life Committee.
He said there is not a consensus for a national approach to finding a way to overturn Roe . "There are lots of voices out there and nobody has a single strategy, so South Dakota has stepped in to fill that void," Donovan said.
Still, some abortion opponents are more confident than they have ever been that Roe could be overturned with two new conservative members of the high court, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. Roberts has not publicly expressed his view on abortion rights. Alito opposed Roe as a young Reagan administration lawyer and had a mixed record on abortion rights while a federal appeals court judge.
On Tuesday, the Supreme Court agreed to decide whether a federal law banning a procedure that opponents call "partial birth" abortion is constitutional. The law passed Congress in 2003 but has been struck down by three federal appeals courts and has yet to take effect.
South Dakota is the first but not the only state to consider new abortion restrictions this year. Ohio, Indiana, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky have introduced similar measures.
Rounds has indicated that he would sign the South Dakota measure if it does not jeopardize existing abortion restrictions while the legislation is challenged. In 2004, he vetoed a similar bill because of concerns that abortion restrictions would be eliminated during legal wrangling. Hunt said his bill has addressed the governor's concerns.
Hunt has also said that when the inevitable challenge to the ban is filed in court, the ban's supporters will be prepared for a costly court fight with $1 million already pledged by "an anonymous donor."
Even without this latest ban, South Dakota was already one of the most difficult states in the country in which to get an abortion, those on both sides of the issue say. It is one of three states with only one abortion provider (Mississippi and North Dakota are the others), and its one clinic, the Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, offers the procedure only once a week. Four doctors who fly in from Minnesota on a rotating basis perform the abortions, since no doctor in South Dakota will do so because of the heavy stigma attached.
About 800 abortions are performed each year in South Dakota, which has a population of 770,000 spread out over 77,000 square miles. Last year, South Dakota passed five laws to restrict abortions, including one that would compel doctors to tell women that they would be ending the life of a "whole, separate, unique human being." That law has been blocked by a lawsuit filed by Planned Parenthood. |
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| occrider |
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Gov. Michael Rounds, a Republican, said he was inclined to sign the bill, which would make it a crime for doctors to perform an abortion unless it was necessary to save the woman's life. The measure would make no exception in cases of rape or incest ...
If a rape victim becomes pregnant and bears a child, the rapist could have the same parental rights as the mother, said Krista Heeren-Graber, executive director of the South Dakota Network Against Family Violence and Sexual Assault.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/2...23107-8780r.htm
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Wow. Simply wow. What is South Dakota trying to compete with Kansas to claim the title of the most retarded state ever? |
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| Marc Summers |
I'm not too keen on abortion. I guess I'd feel different if I got a girl pregnant.  |
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| amphetamine |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Wow. Simply wow. What is South Dakota trying to compete with Kansas to claim the title of the most retarded state ever? |
Seriously, who do you think will win? |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by amphetamine
Seriously, who do you think will win? |
Kansas has "Bleeding kansas" under their belt. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
I guess I'd feel different if I got a girl pregnant. [ |
...but seriously, what are the chances of that happening!
i kid!! i'm kidding:crazy: |
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