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The Hiroshima Cover-Up (pg. 2)
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
What place does censorship have in a "free" press, and in a "democracy?" None really, except:
a) to with hold relevant information the public has a right to know so they can make more informed and better decisions.
b) undermining the role the media is supposed to play of being a watchdog and instead making it a lapdog. |
Point taken.
However, we've clearly seen many times in history where society has "temporarily" given up a bit of their "freedoms" in exchange for greater "security". Is it right? I dunno, but it's certainly not new.
And the media is supposed to be a watchdog, but that is clearly not always the case. There are plenty in the media who push their own agendas and take "investigative reporting" to a new level. Hell, everyone has an agenda if you ask me. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
And the media is supposed to be a watchdog, but that is clearly not always the case. There are plenty in the media who push their own agendas and take "investigative reporting" to a new level. Hell, everyone has an agenda if you ask me. |
>>Case and Point<< lol! |
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| MisterOpus1 |
Where's Hiroshima? Is that in China?
/typical, secluded, geographically-challenged American |
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| NebulousQ |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
b) undermining the role the media is supposed to play of being a watchdog and instead making it a lapdog. |
If the "media"'s goal and self given purpose was to report on the truth and inform the people then I would agree with this.
However as most the the "media" merely wants to make money and push their own agenda and they do this by distorting the truth and misinforming the people, I see no problem in "undermining" the "media" at certian points.
This does not mean I agree with or support the actions that suppressed the true account of the aftermath of the the A-bomb, but I do not believe that "freedom of the press" means that the "media" can do whatever the heck they want. |
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| Kapedan |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Where's Hiroshima? Is that in China?
/typical, secluded, geographically-challenged American |
I thought it was in the Philipines? |
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| Trancer-X |
Don't you mean case in point?
I actually received that in a mass email in early November of last year. And yeah, it's kind of sad but funny to see what lengths they will go to entertain the unsuspecting people who think that they are actually watching real news.
There was a post in the NYTA forum just the other day which I was just reminded of...
| quote: | .....the press has become an entertainment industry, not a industry of truth and indepth reporting but an industry of 2 second clips and dramatic stories that don't give much insight to exactly what is going on. i'm sick of being told the stories. for once i want to hear the God Damned truth of what the hell is going on in this nation we've lost so much control over.
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=326873
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Yea, sue me I make spelling mistakes...:p
I understand where you're coming from, it's just I don't really find it that surprising |
You didn't find it that surprising? I thought that you said that you knew all about it? Don't get too caught up in your lies, now! :p |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by NebulousQ
If the "media"'s goal and self given purpose was to report on the truth and inform the people then I would agree with this.
However as most the the "media" merely wants to make money and push their own agenda and they do this by distorting the truth and misinforming the people, I see no problem in "undermining" the "media" at certian points.
This does not mean I agree with or support the actions that suppressed the true account of the aftermath of the the A-bomb, but I do not believe that "freedom of the press" means that the "media" can do whatever the heck they want. |
I'm well aware of what drives the corperate owned mass media (ratings & profit). Please read my post carefully:
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b) undermining the role the media is supposed to play of being a watchdog and instead making it a lapdog. |
Not once did I use the word "goal."
| quote: | Originally posted by NebulousQ
but I do not believe that "freedom of the press" means that the "media" can do whatever the heck they want. |
Huh? Doing their job means doing "whatever the heck they want?" Right. *shakes head* |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Huh? Doing their job means doing "whatever the heck they want?" Right. *shakes head* |
I think it's a clarification that "freedom of the press" does not necessarily mean unlimited, unfettered "freedom to write whatever the you want." With great freedom comes great responsibility, and the media clearly does not always exercise great judgement.
If their "job" is strictly to report facts, then the media has been doing more than just their "job" for quite some time. The media wields considerable power to shape public opinion. Don't think for a second they don't know this. Power comes in many forms and corrupts equally. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
You didn't find it that surprising? I thought that you said that you knew all about it? Don't get too caught up in your lies, now! :p |
Nope, never said I knew about it, I just said it wasn't all that surprising...
What? Am I omnipotent now? Cool! :cool:
...is it really 'case in point' and not 'case and point'? :conf:
I've always hear it as the latter...meh... |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
What? Did I studder?
Let me repeat for those impaired...
N-O N-E-W-S H-E-R-E
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From the dictionary:
Main Entry: news
Pronunciation: 'nüz, 'nyüz
Function: noun plural but singular in construction
Usage: often attributive
1 a : a report of recent events b : previously unknown information
2 a : material reported in a newspaper or news periodical or on a newscast b : matter that is newsworthy
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=news
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Nope, never said I knew about it, I just said it wasn't all that surprising...
What? Am I omnipotent now? Cool! :cool:
...is it really 'case in point' and not 'case and point'? :conf:
I've always hear it as the latter...meh... |
Please try reading, digesting and then reflecting upon the material before you open your mouth the next time!
You only make yourself look foolish when you reply to posts in such an idiotic manner. ;) :rolleyes:
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
From the dictionary:
Main Entry: news
Pronunciation: 'nüz, 'nyüz
Function: noun plural but singular in construction
Usage: often attributive
1 a : a report of recent events b : previously unknown information
2 a : material reported in a newspaper or news periodical or on a newscast b : matter that is newsworthy
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=news
Please try reading, digesting and then reflecting upon the material before you open your mouth the next time!
You only make yourself look foolish when you reply to posts in such an idiotic manner. ;) :rolleyes:
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Too bad I was talking proganda in general and not the article itself huh? :rolleyes:
Stop trying, you're hurting yourself... ;) :p |
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